Oct. 16, 2025

🤯 Thoughts & Feelings: Crown Jewel Aftermath, The Vision's Betrayal, and TNA's Banger Matches

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🤯 Thoughts & Feelings: Crown Jewel Aftermath, The Vision's Betrayal, and TNA's Banger Matches

This week, Kiara and Tanesha enter the Sister Chat to unpack all the "thoughts and feelings" rocking the wrestling world. We're cutting deep into the contractual realities after Ridge Holland's release and diving into the emotional fallout of the Crown Jewel PLE.

Inside the Episode:

The Vision Crumbles: We react to Seth Rollins' stunning breakup and the immediate rise of Bron Breakker—is the visionary officially out?

TNA's Must-See Moments: A full breakdown of Bound for Glory, featuring the incredible Javon/Leon match, Kalani Jordan's title win, and the chaotic Call Your Shot gauntlet.

Roman & The Usos: Did Jimmy and Jey do right by The Tribal Chief? We analyze the chaos of the Australian Street Fight aftermath and Roman's shocking Christmas ultimatum.

Character Crisis: Discussing the status of Jacob Fatu, Omos, and Obafemi—who needs a new storyline and who's a future main-eventer?

Tune in for the raw, unfiltered talk about the state of wrestling, faction wars, and why John Cena vs. AJ Styles was the match of the night!

Chapters

00:00 Welcome to Main Event Mamas
01:47 Wrestling News and Backstage Tea
09:39 Seth Rollins Injury Discussion
17:24 Rikishi on Jacob Fatu's Momentum
22:44 The Return of a Star
26:26 The Future of Fatu
27:32 Omas and Obafemi: A New Era
32:44 Character Development in Wrestling
34:19 Bound for Glory Highlights
40:40 Kalani Jordan vs. Indy Hurtwell: A Championship Match Analysis
44:33 The Call Your Shot Gauntlet: Intergender Matches and Their Impact
48:35 The Hardee's Match: Nostalgia and Performance
51:04 Trick vs. Santana: The Stakes of Championship Wrestling
56:04 Crown Jewel: Roman Reigns and the Aftermath of the Street Fight
01:02:48 Women's Wrestling: Stephanie vs. Tiffany and Cultural Representation
01:10:38 Iyo and Rhea as Tag Team Partners
01:22:01 Smackdown Recap
01:28:05 Seth's Trust Issues and Shocking Betrayals
01:35:27 The Uso Family Dynamics
01:41:11 Bailey's Transformation and Rivalries
01:46:42 Emerging Feuds and Future Matches

Kiara (00:07)
Hi, I'm Kiara.

Tanesha (00:09)
and I'm Tanisha and you're now entering the sister chat. Welcome to Main Event Mamas.

Kiara (00:13)
whoop whoop because today y'all don't know y'all gonna get some of these backstage clips if you're on our patreon um but we want to welcome back welcome you back i'm saying words this time to main event mamas this is a wrestling episode because of course we have our midnight confessions this week so you don't want to miss that uh we have two special guests but you're gonna have to tune in or watch our socials for when i decide to announce them but either way

We have two special guests joining us for some parenting confessions. And with that, how's your week, Tanisha?

Tanesha (00:49)
alive.

Kiara (00:50)
I mean, that's the baseline.

Tanesha (00:53)
I survived

Kiara (00:54)
Okay, I didn't cut myself this week, you know, same, same. I'm surviving. And this is our moment to remind you that you want to hit that subscribe button wherever you're watching this or listening to this. If you're on YouTube, if you're on wherever podcasts are such as Spotify or Apple podcasts or

Tanesha (00:58)
That's good. That's good.

Kiara (01:20)
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Tanesha (01:33)
Thank you.

Kiara (01:47)
That's kinda how that works. But this weekend, we're coming off of some shows, which it was a fun weekend for me. Some TNA, some NXT, some SmackDown, a little Raw, that's a whole thing.

Tanesha (02:04)
Mm. Mm. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Kiara (02:06)
I'm gonna have a rant there, I have thoughts. ⁓ We

wanted to call this episode Thoughts and Feelings because...

Tanesha (02:13)
We do, after raw is definitely thoughts and feelings.

Kiara (02:16)
I feel like we have some really important thoughts and feelings to get out there. But before we get into any of that, you know the streets was talking, so we gotta start there.

Tanesha (02:29)
Yeah, tell me, give me the tea as I sip some tea.

Kiara (02:32)
So listen here, yesterday, the news broke that Ridge Holland, NXT UK former star, also widely known as the person who was in the match with Big E, giving him that pile driver. He was injured, has been injured for a while, but ⁓ his contract was not going to be renewed. That news went out and there was some feelings about that. He released some information on social media.

There was a lot of backlash. So what do you think about this one? I gotta tell you the other T is why the backlash, because I was like, don't know if you know, right? So the reason why there's some backlash is that he got injured working a TNA show, something about his foot or his ankle, I believe. And so he's about seven months into.

Tanesha (03:19)
It's his foot, because

he showed his x-ray with the pen in. Yeah. yes.

Kiara (03:23)
Yeah, so you did know. Fantastic. We're just making sure everybody at home knows.

And show so he is getting released in the midst of kind of rehabbing this injury that happened on the TNA show. He also had all this other tea to talk about how like he took a $200,000 pay cut to go work at NXT. Then the other parts of the streets are talking about that was your choice. Like, because you know, there's a difference between the main roster contract and the NXT contract. So some of the streets were like, listen,

You decided to go on down there, can't be mad. But they're going to pay for his ⁓ rehab, but they're not going to give him his wages. And he has a family. So there's definitely a lot to be considered that day about all of the things. And what that feels like, like, you know, we've been let go. We know what that feels like. So what do you think about this story?

Tanesha (04:17)
Yeah, but I was gonna ask.

Well, see, I was gonna ask. So, like, when I read it, I thought they said he was, they were gonna pay up until November. So he still was getting his guaranteed wages until November. And then all that was going to go away. That's when his contracts expired.

Isn't that what it said? I thought that's what I read, but maybe I misread it because he wrote this whole thing and posted it there. And that's how I saw his x-ray, because he posted like series of pictures in the video.

Kiara (04:36)
I don't know, sorry. I was like, I don't think so.

I even see the

x-ray. I just saw the statement. So you have more tea than me on this one.

Tanesha (04:51)

I do. Okay. So yeah, so yeah. So from what I remember reading now, granted y'all could correct me if I'm wrong, cause you know, they could have changed it, edited it, all this other stuff. mean not, but I thought it said that he definitely wasn't going to get renewed in November, but they were going to, yes. And they was going to pay him, still pay him until November, whatever his guarantee wages were. And then after that, that was like, you know, now granted

Kiara (05:05)
so his contract is up in November. Okay.

Tanesha (05:18)
Coincidental, you got injured on TNA. So for them to actually still want to pay your workers comp until then. It's kind of, know.

Kiara (05:29)
Well, I thought they said they were paying it. Like, they're paying his rehab, which is expensive as hell. Let's talk about that, though. It's expensive as hell, your rehab and all of that stuff. But I definitely think, like, so what do you think about that? Do you think it makes sense to be cutting them? Like, what do you think about his case in general? Yeah, what do you think?

Tanesha (05:31)
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're paying for that.

So.

I mean, one, you decided to take a pay cut, because you could have definitely said no.

Kiara (05:57)
Pause, there's more to that. So he wanted to go to NXT to build his self backup. That was the other piece of the information that I didn't.

Tanesha (06:04)
Okay, so then

you decided again to take the pay cut because you wanted to improve your craft for whatever reason or however you felt you needed to go down to the developmental. So and you got injured in a TNA match. So it's not even like you got injured on an NXT match.

Kiara (06:26)
note they were definitely in TNA.

Tanesha (06:28)
And it wasn't with Mike, right? Mike Santana? I think it's who he fought. Plus he had clips. He had clips. So I'm almost like... I'm almost positive it was with Mike Santana who you had a fight with. Because I think they were trying to build some storyline. I don't know what they were doing. But anyway. But yeah, I mean, I think it sucks. Sure, you're injured. You get cut.

Kiara (06:33)
I know it was an in-person. Look at that! We're have to link to this story.

Tanesha (06:58)
But you're not the first and you ain't gonna be the last one who's injured who get cut. So.

Kiara (07:03)
No, you're right. You were right. It says...

Tanesha (07:04)
Hopefully you can rehab

and come back and don't go back to WWE. There's so many other brands. I I wouldn't recommend going to AEW, but maybe you could go to CNN.

Kiara (07:14)
Okay, so sorry, I'm going to grab some more information from this. ⁓ It says that you're right, that his contract ends on November 14th, so we got about two months, give or take, from yesterday. His guarantee pay will end, but he can't work for another six months due to the injury and he has a family of five. So that was kind of what he was mostly concerned about from that point. Like I said, I didn't see the rest of the stuff. All right, now here's my take.

Tanesha (07:15)
You

Yep, listen.

Kiara (07:44)
You're a contract.

Tanesha (07:45)
Wait, why you say it like that?

Kiara (07:47)
Because honestly,

like that's how it is. Like that's part of the risk of being a contractor is that sometimes they no longer need your services and you get cut. I mean, I don't know if it's fair or not fair. We live in the United States. Shit is what it is. Look, I don't I mean, like I said, we were let go. I didn't get no I got my severance. Oh, well, they treated us real good. So I ain't going to even pretend because we definitely stopped working in.

When did I start working? In like October, November, and then I got paid. I was still on the payroll till January, so I'm not even gonna complain. Shout out to Randstad y'all did y'all thing, because we wasn't in a struggle bus. At least I wasn't, until I find another job. But a lot of other companies that I know of, you get your severance that's it. don't, you your benefits end, which is that situation, your medical ends. It doesn't matter what you're in the middle of, right?

You can be in the middle for a serious treatment and your medical is over. And now we run into the government office trying to figure that out. Like, can I get some Medicaid? Please, thank you. So I could continue seeing my doctors and how long that ever takes on the government's end. So I just think I understand his frustration. There's been a lot of people who have been let go of contracts recently. And so I understand it. I don't know whether I think it's fair or not fair. It's just the way it's unfortunately the American way.

It just is what it is. ⁓ That is why a lot of people do recommend. I've read a lot of articles from wrestlers and listened to interviews where they talk about doing things with your money because your body's on the line, right? So what can you do about things like that? And particularly for him, having been a part of the Big E situation, I think it would have even been more mindful to be like, hey, we need to make sure we're good.

in case something happens to me. It's a very physical situation, this pro wrestling in general, so you just gotta be mindful. So I don't know whether I think it's fair or not fair, I just think it is what it is. And like you said, I think this is an opportunity. Maybe he goes to TNA and, you know, builds himself up there ⁓ once he has six months or once he's done rehabbing. Or he can do what some other people do when they're, you rehabbing, go to school, do other things.

pursue some other opportunities, maybe start a podcast. I'm sure people are gonna wanna hear what he thinks. It's an opportunity, not necessarily a door closing. That's what I'm saying.

Tanesha (10:13)
Yeah, I mean also, I mean I definitely

think it's an opportunity, but also too, as a contractor, I mean I know I said workers comp, but then I'm also going, is there workers comp? Because technically they can be paying you, because you got injured on the job. So I would go for workers comp for T &A. I don't know what to tell you. Why you trying to figure your life out? I'm not trying to, okay wait, I'm really, okay I'm not trying to be mean.

Kiara (10:38)
No,

no, I'm not saying that you're trying to take this lightly, but I just think the way you delivered it was a little funny, but you're not wrong. I mean, you said it's possible for workers comp, yes, but also, like I said, I don't know how that works for contractors.

Tanesha (10:45)
I mean...

Cause how, what about unemployment? That don't work for them?

Kiara (10:57)
Do you get unemployment as a contractor? Y'all know I am not into the labor laws. I don't know.

Tanesha (11:01)
I have no clue. enlighten us please because I'm like, maybe there's, I feel like there's other avenues you can go against. Now, granted, or you can, ⁓ you can do an OnlyFans. I don't know.

Kiara (11:13)
Does it depend on

the state? It depends on your classification, right? So based on what my Google, quickly my Google search said, it says it depends on whether you're a traditional independent contractor or a W-2 employee, because you know sometimes they do that where you're a contractor but you're on a W-2 payroll. But traditional independent contractors typically don't get unemployment. You know, we need to get a wrestler on here to talk us through this because

Tanesha (11:33)
Mm-hmm.

But

That

is true. Anybody. You know.

Kiara (11:44)
So we might

be reaching out, because I don't know. I think I'm very curious what that looks like. When you get released, what does that look like from your financial perspective? Because I know what it looks like for me, but I'm usually a full-time employee, right? So just saying.

Tanesha (11:53)
Mm-hmm.

I know what

it's for me. All right.

Kiara (12:01)
It was rough.

All right, so let's talk the next story. We're going to talk about Seth Rollins. I know we're going to talk about Seth Rollins a lot. So if you're drinking, this might be your Seth Rollins episode. He might be the drinking word today. Again, I Seth Rollins. Not today.

Tanesha (12:16)
As you know, we're both sober, we're not drinking, so we are just gonna

sip some tomorrow. But sip some water or some tea. Uh-huh.

Kiara (12:22)
Yep, yep. Today is

our daytime episode. Tomorrow might be a little, little intoxication on air. All right, so listen.

We saw Monday, okay? I'm not gonna get into too much on Monday, but I want to talk about why we think Monday happened because we're gonna have a whole section on Monday shortly. But there was some talk that Seth was injured during the Crown Jewel match with Cody Rhodes when he did that Coast to Coast. And I remember watching it thinking, I don't think that that was supposed to go like that. But...

Tanesha (12:41)
Okay. Okay.

Kiara (12:59)
I was just praying for a good outcome. Then there was some internet, you know, doing what we do, taking pictures of Seth Rollins trying to eat ice cream. Also, Seth, that had to be real uncomfortable here. You trying to eat ice cream, people rolling up to you. Like, let the man live a little. But he over there with a sling on. And so it looks like he might have suffered a shoulder injury and that could require surgery.

which is the reasoning behind what may have happened with Monday's situation with the vision turning on him. However, here's the problem. Because Seth faked us out so good,

Tanesha (13:41)
We don't believe

you.

Kiara (13:45)
It's not, I don't believe, see that's not true. It's not a we. I believe you. I was like.

Tanesha (13:47)
Okay, it's a me, I don't believe you. And a mass of other

people don't believe you. You know why? Because you lured us the last time. And we were like, wow, Becky never did this, but you know what, maybe this is real. And then you had your daughter, Ru, you know, in there and melting our hearts. Oh my God. No, he really is hurting. Look how cute he is sitting here walking with some crutches and he really hurt his knee. I don't believe you. I'm sorry. I don't believe you. It's the boy who cry wolf.

Kiara (13:55)
he did.

See, that's the problem I was just referring to.

Listen, though, but I believe you, and I'm going tell you why.

Tanesha (14:19)
Okay, you tell me why.

Kiara (14:20)
was looking first of all in the picture with the fan and him eating ice cream he looked like he was caught unawares it did not look like yay cheese it was like what the that's what it looked like also wait a minute wait a minute

Tanesha (14:36)
It could be like that, cause he's staying here trying to eat

some ice cream and these people rolling up on him, not giving him his personal space. I mean, I'm just saying.

Kiara (14:40)
It could have. True.

But also the way that the sling was on, I was like, I don't know. And then if it was a work, why wouldn't he have had the sling on on Monday? He had his hand in that gorgeous outfit. mean, claps all the way around, Seth. That was amazing. That was amazing, Seth, all the way around. I love that outfit. He looked great.

Tanesha (14:57)
I mean, I feel like they.

I mean, he did look good. I liked the outfit. That was very ⁓ demure. Demure. Demure. Okay? Give him a little clap, clap, clap. But, I mean, as looking on close examination, when they were beating him up, I think it had extra padding. And that's why he didn't have a sling. But that still doesn't mean I think he's fully injured. Because why would you let them tsunami you?

Kiara (15:12)
Okay.

That's entirely possible.

Tanesha (15:34)
Knowing you injured, I wouldn't let them do that. I'm like, nah, we good. We don't, like why? I ain't Cody. I ain't sitting here trying to fight in a, you know, with my peck all swollen and black and blue. you want to dislocate my shoulder more? Like, I don't think, Granny, he did one tsunami, so I was kind of happy, because I was like, please don't do five, because I don't know what's going to happen here, because you know I have them. But.

Kiara (15:42)
But.

Fair.

Tanesha (15:58)
Listen, let's just hypothetically say he actually really is injured.

I hope you have a speedy recovery. But if you have tricked me again...

Sor-lor, help me.

Because I don't like to be lied to, just to sell a story. Or I have said to you, said, if he just wanted to go on vacation with his wife and his kid, he could have just went on vacation. Well, I mean, listen, but he, you know what? He deserves it. You know why? Because he be wrestling a lot. Okay, he's a full-time employee. Okay, he's not like our Roman who comes and picks and choose when he comes.

Kiara (16:19)
You swear everybody's going on vacation. You swear everyone is on vacation. He does.

Tanesha (16:35)
or the Rock. John Cena is the most John Cena has wrestled in, I don't know how long, but even that, but even there, he picking and choosing when he show up and he don't show up. So I mean, yes, do I think he deserves a vacation? Yes, but there's, I just want to go back to the days where we don't know half of the things that we know now.

Kiara (16:40)
this is his retirement tour. He only got four more dates.

That's true.

Thank you. That's a moment. Sometimes y'all just ruin my fun. Like, listen, I loved that we didn't know what was going on with Seth and his surprise was the best thing ever, ever during that pay-per-view. But this time I don't think it's, I don't think it's a joke. And I'm a little sad because it does feel like sometimes every time Seth gets on this good roll, some shit happens to him, which sucks.

and we're going to get into my critiques about the vision later. But if he is injured, which it does certainly seem like that, because additionally, if you were watching him leave the ring, the way that he left the ring was very much like, my God, my shoulder. And I was like, God, poor Seth. It did not look in character. That did not look like in character. That looked like I'm about to be walking carefully.

Tanesha (17:35)
Mm-hmm.

I mean, definitely when he told them to like, like get off, cause I was also

like, why y'all keep walking with him like that? And then I'm like, I said, you act like he can't walk. And then he kept, he told me, stop. And I was like, I would tell y'all to stop too. Cause I'm trying to figure out why y'all walking with him, how y'all walking with him. Cause if he is injured, it ain't his back. It ain't his legs. It's his arm.

Kiara (18:04)
just want him to rest up. Like I love me a fully healed Seth Rollins. So I can't wait for to get back on that. All right, let's talk briefly sometimes a little bit about Rikishi. So like, here's the thing. I know you said you heard something recently, but like, well, I guess this is recently. On his Off the Top podcast, Rikishi basically said that WWE took their foot off the gas with Jacob Fatu. He got extremely hot and he was steamed.

Tanesha (18:15)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (18:34)
with the audience, Rikishi's frustrated, that Fatu's momentum was abruptly stopped after he lost the US Championship. He said everything they threw at this kid, came correct. He stand on business and all of a sudden, poof, like a Houdini move. He feels like Fatu vanished for a period of time without explanation, despite being one of WWE's most over stars.

He did mention however that he thought that his upcoming feud with Drew McIntyre is a sign that they're trying to figure it out and that they're going to fix it. But I'd like to dive in a little bit on that with you. Because I think we did talk about the fact that he felt like he was missing for a bit, but then he came back. So what do you think? Do you think that WWE kinda took their foot off the gas with him?

Tanesha (19:08)
Mm-hmm.

I mean, absolutely, I do think that they did because, and I'm not gonna lie, it kind of reminds me of Jey Like, you took something away and then it became a stagnant storyline of you trying to figure out what's the next step and where and what is happening. So, you know, I definitely do, because I mean, I even talked about, it's like I said, I...

When did he come back? And then we both had to remind ourselves, that's right, he was with Drew, but how long ago was that? Like how many weeks was he gone? Now, granny, he could have been on vacation. I'm gonna keep saying vacation because you know, some of these people, once you, think what, reason I'm saying vacation is because once they do put the gas on them, you are on the gas and you are 365, like you really are like in, out, boom, you got a show, here's show, next show, next show, storyline here, storyline here, and you could be doing it for months. No break.

Know nothing like there's got to be on. You're on television. That's your storyline. So I'm going to say after it, they could have took a vacation. He could have took a broke a moment to re evaluate, recapture whatever he you know, cause he got seven kids too, you know.

Kiara (20:11)
Mm-hmm.

I mean, if you could come home, that would be me. If that was my husband, I'd be like, anytime you can get your behind here and deal with one of these seven, feel free. Two, three, four, five.

Tanesha (20:31)
That's what I'm saying.

And that's what I'm saying. So

I say vacation, that don't mean he probably went somewhere, but that just means that he was away from here and going to do whatever he needed to do for himself and his family. But in the same breath.

they still didn't seem like they had nowhere for him to go.

You understand what saying? And I'm not saying I'm not happy that Sammy won the US championship, because he's doing great. I'm happy that I actually got him in a, over there and he seems consistent and constant and not trying to be like the reason over here. Cause I can see it now. If he was still in the world, he'd be sitting here trying to talk to Jay and Jay be like, I try and hear you right now. Like it'd be too much going on. And then Sammy and BNA feelings. And then we're going to be seeing Sammy and Jay feuding for what?

Kiara (21:14)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (21:19)
You I'm saying? So it's good that that's over there and I'm hoping with the potential that this potential feud between Drew and Jacob, one, it's new. Two, Drew may be still on his little, gotta get everybody from the blood line. You know, I don't know who did me wrong. He needs to let that go too. They need to be like a new type of thing. But I also am questioning about that because isn't Drew about to go record?

Go shoot a movie. what is that? Yeah, like, so how long is this view gonna be? Like I want us to build fields again. Like if we're gonna build it, build it, make it, make it, make it cinema masterpiece versus giving me these quick little, instead of giving me these quick little fields and then they be like, okay, so where do we go from here? Cause now, now all of a sudden now the gas is going once you give me these quick things, build it up so the gas can.

Kiara (21:49)
Highlander, yeah.

Yeah.

Tanesha (22:15)
Like pretty much even like the buildup between Jacob and Solo, that was a buildup. We saw that. It did F off too fast once, Solo got it. But cause I thought him and Jimmy was going to join something. ⁓ I think he did get a remax and he lost. But that's because so we'll have the MFTs, the MFTs, whatever, whatever they are.

Kiara (22:20)
Yeah, but it just kinda effed off too fast. Like I was like...

was like, did he even get a rematch? Like, it just felt like it just...

You said it

Tanesha (22:44)
okay. So yeah, that's my thoughts. What's your thoughts?

Kiara (22:48)
think you're right. I think he's right. I had the same thought. I think we were also complaining like where the hell did he go? Because he is so hot though. But I also wonder, did he take a little time off before, you know, they were gearing up for this next thing, right? So a part of me wonders were they resting him a bit while they were trying to like figure out the creative next step? Because remember, Drew was coming off Cody.

So it kind of makes sense for me that there was a little bit of a break, but I don't, I would have liked to at least have a promo with him behind the scenes talking about what's next for him. ⁓ But I also think that they were using that time, like, like not just to reconfigure him, but also to reconfigure like the MFTs, right? Cause you see what we are, where we are now. Like we've, we've transitioned with them into something that I feel that feels more dangerous. It feels more relevant.

Tanesha (23:33)
Mm-hmm.

Mmm. It owns up to their name.

Kiara (23:40)
⁓ and I like this.

Yeah. And it fits better. Like I was like, yes, this is great. And they spent how many weeks? Four weeks introducing us to the new characters, the same characters, reconfigured, redone, so that now you have a sense of like, these are a big deal, these people. So I think it made sense for a slight moment to reconfigure them.

But for Fatu, I don't know. I feel like he's still the same. So I'm not sure. I think it was maybe they didn't know what to do with him next. But you're right. I'm a little concerned that his next feud is with Drew. Though I know it'll be a great feud. It's just like, what's the next steps for him? Does he go back after Sami for the US title? Should we have just moved him to Raw? This is what I'm telling you. I missed the draft a little bit.

Because I feel like sometimes that gives you a brand new way to reconfigure a character and put them with a new set of people. Because I don't know. I was like, after Drew, where else does he go?

Tanesha (24:44)
He may end up going to Jimmy.

since Jimmy and Jay are having their little, we'll talk more about it, but having their little weird brother, I told you so vibe, not me, I ain't gonna help you, but I am gonna help you, but you not supposed to, you not listening. Like, it seemed like Jay became the big brother versus the little brother. You were like.

Kiara (25:03)
Mm-hmm.

plans.

Tanesha (25:08)
But still, I mean, that could be another potential possibility because remember, Jimmy and Jacob, they did pretty much team up even though they weren't.

Kiara (25:12)
It is.

Yeah, they were.

Tanesha (25:19)
but they still was teaming up. They would still have each other's corner. were still in each other's, right. Exactly. And then they had Sammy. So Sammy, now you've got the three, you know, that could have been something completely different. So that's what I mean. There's so many other ways to go with it. No, I'm not saying they need to do all of that, but I mean, or just, or, or just start making them, if we're not going to do the draft, then stop making everybody stay in one spot.

Kiara (25:21)
accomplices rather than friends.

Yeah, no, I'm not saying. I'm just here.

that because I'm like as I'm looking at the roster I'm like where else could he be going like

Tanesha (25:50)
He can do something at NXT.

Kiara (25:52)
I don't want him back. No, I don't want him at NXT.

Tanesha (25:54)
No, I'm saying

as in like, well, I mean, we had Naya in Chelsea and you had random people go to NXT or he can, right, or he can even go to TNA for a second.

Kiara (26:01)
Yeah, for one-offs.

Okay, I see that, I can see that. I don't know, I just need to think a little bit more about, we'll get to SmackDown in a bit and I'm sure I'll come back to where I think I want him to go next after Drew. Cuz I'm like, as I'm thinking about it, I'm like, where else?

Where else can he go? Also, what's Cody up to next? You know what mean?

Tanesha (26:22)
I know.

Kiara (26:26)
Anyway, next story. Let's talk about Omas and Obafemi. So, you were excited about this. You said he went on vacation, Obafemi. You said...

Tanesha (26:34)
He probably

did go on vacation, then came back. He looked happy. He looked a little tan. He looked a little happy.

Kiara (26:41)
You had thoughts, you said, you you went on vacation. You know, that was your that was your word for last week's episode. But yeah, everybody was. mean, I want to go. But basically, Opah Femi and Omos met at an NXT live event in Cleveland. It ended in a no contest because the dark state, yeah, first of all, dark state, y'all ruining it for me.

Tanesha (26:50)
Everybody was on vacation. Everybody.

How

about say I thought you liked Dark State? What happened? Oh.

Kiara (27:11)
I do, but they're ruining things

for me. Like TNA's Leon and Javon Evans. They ruin stuff for me. Now I love me some dark state, but listen, we about have to break up soon if I can't seem to get completions to matches. Like you need to pick and choose your spot. Okay, anyway, the point is.

Tanesha (27:13)
we'll talk about it. that was a good that was a great that was a great

Ha ha

ha

Kiara (27:33)
Again, I'm sure I'm coming back to that rant shortly. They had an interference, so it was a no contest. But the cool part is that we're seeing old moss again. ⁓

Tanesha (27:36)
I know, I'm with you.

I

think Omas and Obafemi would be a great matchup.

Bye!

multiple reasons.

Kiara (27:56)
Okay, I wanna know.

Tanesha (27:59)
Some I can say on air and some I can't.

Kiara (28:01)
Okay, okay, I wasn't prepared. ⁓ That woke me up. Waiting for my after breakfast snack. Okay, all right, okay.

Tanesha (28:14)
I'm sorry, I blame the tea. It's the tea. Okay, anyway. ⁓ I just think it's gonna be a good match. think it'd be...

I think with Omos, when he first came to WWE, he was just this dominating force of someone who has so much power, right? We see this seven foot monster of a man and all he has to do is just slap you and you just fly all the way across the room. You'd be like, dang, you didn't really do anything, know what I'm saying?

Kiara (28:33)
Yes.

Tanesha (28:42)
And then he left, right? Like things happening. And I also feel like they didn't know what they were doing with him either. I mean, I they knew they just was trying to either make him like Andre the Giant or some type of form where it was just like, I think he's more talented than that. I don't think he's just this tall figure who could just be picking up people and throwing them over here and then, you know, it's over. I think he does have some talent there. So they'll see him, then see him in AAA.

Kiara (28:48)
that.

Mm-hmm.

That was great. He was in Japan.

Tanesha (29:11)
That was great. He was in Japan building

his skills, showing that he's more than just this tall monstrous of a man.

Kiara (29:22)
Well, he had a great story. Like he was definitely talking about his story on some podcasts before he left for Japan and about how he faced a lot of health challenges. And that was really interesting, but I agree with you. I don't think that they knew what to do with him. And so, and that he needed more training and where would he get that? Right. So.

Tanesha (29:27)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm,

and that's what the thing is because I feel like they weren't training him in the way of Showing his true potential Like that's why I said, I feel like they were just showing him as this tall Andre the giant of a man who can just pick you up and throw your over there and then you know cuz it seemed like everybody he went against Everybody lost well, of course cuz I mean you're told man, you know, that was it now to see him with Oba Femi and see how much Femi with his power to see ⁓

Kiara (29:48)
Yes.

Tanesha (30:09)
what he's done with the NXT and NXT, like to see all those different things and to watch them to pair up.

I just think it's going to be magic when we see it on screen for real. Cuz these are just, one, I didn't know NXT actually did ⁓ shows. Yeah, I didn't know that.

Kiara (30:24)
live shows? They do. Yeah. Let me

be clear that Shawn Michaels likes to, I don't know if you follow him, but he likes to share about when NXT is going on their live tours.

Tanesha (30:36)
No, I don't follow him. Remember, I just started getting into NXT, so I wouldn't, I'll follow him. I just said I will follow him.

Kiara (30:38)
You should.

and you wouldn't follow Shawn Michaels, girl.

care.

Tanesha (30:49)
And technically NXT prices are a little bit more reasonable in price than in cuz they're coming to New York in November. I've, yep, and I thought about bringing Boy Child, the youngest one, to go see cuz he asked to go. He wants like, and can I sit in the front row? No, but ⁓ NXT.

Kiara (31:12)
Yes, NXT prices are more affordable. That's

Tanesha (31:15)
this is the potential we may be in the third row. But you know.

It'd be whatever, because he'll just be happy that he was there. At least I know it's about an hour and a half to two hours. And so far I'm enthused. There's some, I mean, I ain't gonna lie, there's some there, I'm like, okay, you stop talking. But you know, it's what it is. But yes, I don't know where I was going with this, but you can go ahead and pick up.

Kiara (31:40)
I'm talking about Obas and Obas maybe and I took you on a journey. I'm sorry, my bad. The point is I

Tanesha (31:47)
Yeah, you introduce yourself, Michael,

and I'm sitting here like, what? And then it just went, well, a whole different rant. Okay.

Kiara (31:53)
Like how Shawn Michaels just derailed the conversation, didn't derail me. Anyway, so, Omas, back to him. I do think he had a series of false starts, right? Like they had him with MVP for a while. That seemed to be like it was going in a way, but then, you know, change happens and there was all these shifts in the roster. I don't know. I don't know what's next. I did enjoy him, like you said, in AAA.

Tanesha (32:08)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (32:17)
I'm curious that if they have like this story for him in NXT, did want him to see that the good part is I think like you talk about people going back to NXT. I'm glad they put him back in NXT. I'm glad that they're building him from the ground up. I'm glad they're letting Shawn Michaels team play with him a little bit to help build up this character. Cuz we still don't know what he's about and that I think is the biggest issue.

Tanesha (32:27)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (32:44)
Like I enjoyed his podcast, because I got to hear about his story, but who is the character Omas? That's like, what's this character supposed to be? So once we figure that out, I think we'll be off to the races. Now let's talk a little bit about ⁓ Oba. I don't know what's next for Oba. I was really shocked.

Tanesha (32:51)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (33:08)
and a little saddened to realize that he had been, I know you saw the dark, I don't know. I don't know why, I know. There's something going on outside with the sun baby.

Tanesha (33:14)
I was sitting there going like,

are you good? Like, what's this?

Kiara (33:21)
I think so. I think so. Anyway, the point is with Oba, I don't know what's next for him. Like I said, I was very disappointed about him losing that championship because he just is such a monster that I don't... Where does he go next? You know what mean? Like, do I think he's ready for the main roster? I'm not sure yet. I do think we need some more characters moving. I think that's also where we're talking about some of the, who is Jacob go after next. We need some more characters in the mix.

I feel like we're not getting as many as I would like, but I don't know. We'll see what's next. Apparently he's still gonna be in NXT, but like, mm-hmm. Now that Trick and Ricky are in it again, I'm kind of wondering where Trick goes next, because he's undone, he's undone at all. Like, you know, that's a whole nother conversation. But anyway, with that, we're concluding Our Streets Are Talking, because clearly, we're all talked out about The Streets. All talked out.

But let's talk about TNA Bound for Glory, because ooh girl, the fun I had watching this.

Tanesha (34:26)
there are definitely some good things we could talk about. Javon and Leon's match. Cause that was the match of the night. I ain't gonna lie. Okay. See? Cause that match, when I, when I say, I think they have no bones in their bodies.

Kiara (34:34)
I say we start with that match because...

I told you!

Tanesha (34:45)
When I say I say I think they have no bones, they have no bones. Or they are the ones that have their like the contortionists. You know, I don't know. I don't know what their stretching routine is, but I need it because clearly.

Kiara (34:48)
I tell it to you. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Nope.

Tanesha (34:59)
Clearly, even when I thought Leon hurt himself, he grabbed his knee and he was like, I'm back. And I was like, whoa, okay, I need that. I don't know what's going on there, but you know, I need to be limber and, I'm like, this is what it felt like to be 20 something years old, cause I.

Kiara (35:06)
You

I wasn't like that at 20. ⁓

Tanesha (35:15)
That way it's funny.

Kiara (35:17)
Maybe we missed something.

Tanesha (35:19)
I mean, and I'm a dancer too, so it's like, I wasn't that buoyancy, because that was crazy to watch them. And they kept doing back to back moves. Like it was like, I'ma hit you with this one. wait, I'ma hit you, like especially when he caught him in mid-air boom, and he was like, I'ma get you in over, I was like.

Kiara (35:26)
They were incredibly bouncy. It was such a fun. Yes.

Yes. Yes.

Tanesha (35:38)
who

and where and why and how many ways are we gonna do this?

Kiara (35:41)
It was incredible.

Yes, it was incredible. Like I just sat there. I was like, that was the one to match up. I mean, obviously there were other matches I was excited about, but that one, I was like, I gotta get home because you know, was shopping. I was doing all the things, but I was like, I got to get home for this match. My poor husband was like, Kiara. I'm like, listen, I have to see this live. Not later, not rewind, like live.

And I was screaming at the TV while I was eating my dinner. I was just like, more. No, I didn't even, because I trust them on the scare the crap out of Kiara meter, I prepared myself in advance. I just knew, I just knew I was going to be like, So I just didn't, I just screamed and I was like, they're gonna be fine. I went into it with the belief that they're going to be fine with all the insanity that was gonna happen. But also,

Tanesha (36:11)
Cause I'm pretty sure you had your mama ears like, my God, don't do that. you did it. Ooh. Okay.

Okay. Okay.

Kiara (36:35)
Just seeing Javon, like he's been busy all week, right? So it's like, woo, like you haven't, when have you had a break? But then also, there's this meme on, I think Twitter, they were talking about how like Triple H and Shawn Michaels are just waiting, just waiting for Leon to get over his contract. They're trying to woo him over. Please come. You know what saying? Like I do think they would make a hell of a tag team, but just.

Tanesha (37:00)
Yes, cause I feel like that's what they're hinting

out, like slowly hinting, and I'm like, I said, I would be happy for y'all. don't know which I would be going, maybe I'll be called young to fly. I don't know, fly too young? Young? I don't know. But something that's going to represent how y'all are bouncy and y'all young, cause everyone keeps talking about how young. ⁓ no, that's too dull. No, no, no, no, no. At first I was like, yeah. Then I went, no, no, no, no, no, no. Maybe when they were eight. ⁓ to fly bounce or bounce, bounce to fly.

Kiara (37:14)
Too bouncy?

No, that's not gonna work. No, no, two fly, two flybouts. I don't know. We'll keep workshopping. We'll keep workshopping this name.

Tanesha (37:30)
Bounce I'm Too Fly. I don't know, something. Bounce We Too Fly. We something.

Kiara (37:35)
Okay, this is what y'all could tell us we do it too

much, it's cool. But the point is, I think that there could be this great tag team and I'm excited cuz it looks like NXT is taking them that way. But just I was so angry when this match stopped the first time. I stood up out of my chair, and I'm sitting here in front of my freaking computer, okay? It's not as though I was in the audience. I was like, you better not stop this damn match.

Tanesha (37:41)
You

Kiara (38:03)
Like, better not stop this match. And then when... ⁓

Tanesha (38:07)
Dark state. ⁓

Kiara (38:08)
No.

His name is escaping me, the GM.

Tanesha (38:12)
I Santan-San-No. Ava? Santito?

Kiara (38:16)
No,

no Santino. There you go. Sorry. I should know because honestly, I just watched his interview with

Tanesha (38:23)
Our humble roses.

Kiara (38:25)
It's rough. I'm tired. Y'all is if you knew my morning, you would understand. Anyway, the point is when he came out and announced that they were going to have five more minutes, I was like, why five, man? Why not 10? Why not 20? I need them to have the hour limit. I need them to be the main event to have the hour time limit that they'd be giving people in AEW because I was like five minutes ain't long enough. But then when Dark State came out, I literally tweeted from our main event mama's Twitter account is that

They better not be Dark State. It better not be. And of course it was. And I was livid. Which is why part two of Kiara's annoyance with Dark State. Listen, I love y'all. You know what saying? My Chocolate Kings, I'm down. The problem I have here is you need to not interrupt other Chocolate Kings. Okay? I was so excited about this match. I needed someone to win. I needed to know who was better.

It had to be someone who was better. And you left me on the question mark, question mark. Like, you left me on red. I needed to complete the thought and feel like, how did I end up here? I was so angry. Like, I think I was on X talking to, you know, Dallas from Humble Roses, talking to plenty of our other Culture Clash Network folks. Like, I can't deal. I can't deal. How is this happening? So I'm just saying, Dark State.

Tanesha (39:34)
on red.

Kiara (39:54)
just between us.

You know we root for everybody black, right? Y'all know that? But I'ma need, I'ma need y'all to just veer sideways right now. Leave them alone. Don't disrupt that match. There were some other matches, the Frankie Cazario match. Maybe you should have that one. I was like, there were some other matches for you to insert yourself? Did y'all go to the call your shot got my? I mean, there was moments where you could have interrupted and that was not the one for me. I just feel. Maybe Trick should have been smart and like,

been homies with them and maybe he would still been TNA champion. I'm just saying, I'm just saying we all heels so why not team up on that one. There were other opportunities for you to meet your moment and that wasn't it. That's all I'm saying.

So that was upsetting by far.

Kiara (40:40)
Anyway, let's talk about Kalani Jordan and this TNA Knockouts World Championship match against Indy Hurtwell. So first I want to say Indy has gotten significantly better. I want to say that. And so I was kind of impressed by Indy in general. But Kalani said, this title's mine. Okay? She definitively was like, this title is mine, babe. So appreciate you. But she looked amazing.

in this match and I was just hella impressed. I just get more and more impressed by her from day to day. It just is like amazing. So what'd you think about the match? Did you think she was amazing? What'd you think about Indy?

Tanesha (41:10)
Mm-hmm.

I mean,

I do, I do. And I think Indy definitely has gotten a lot better. But I also, I would challenge, I would ⁓ also chuck it up to the fact that she's been doing a lot more Indy ⁓ promotions. Really trying to get, I feel like when you are, what's the word I'm looking for? When you're invested in yourself and invested in your craft, you are going to go, you know what? I want to get better and I'm going to get better.

And these are the steps I'm going to do. And I feel like with Indy, even when I saw her at Slammiversary, I was like, all right, she's good. She's good. But I feel like she's definitely approved even more in that capacity as well. And Kalani.

Yes, I felt like when she won the title and how she showed up to NXT the following weekday, however, it was like, ⁓ I was like, that's right, you better show them immediately. I look like a champion, I'm supposed to be a champion. And if NXT don't wanna give me that championship, no problem. I'm gonna go somewhere where I'm appreciated. And that's where I feel like too, she felt a little torn, but she's showing.

that she should have been had that championship. And maybe it took for her to go somewhere else to be getting another, what's that, like a breath of fresh air and having different opponents. I think that's what she needed too. Cause sometimes you can get stagnant and we'll talk about that later. We'll talk about that tomorrow. How I feel like some of our people in NXT are being stagnant, but I was impressed with that match. I definitely.

Kiara (42:46)
Yeah.

Tanesha (43:06)
can see another one of those. ⁓ But I'm definitely wondering what's going to be the next step for Kalani. And I'm definitely want to see if someone else is going to challenge her. Or is it like who's going to be next? And I'm looking forward to that match because I think it's going to be even more of a high caliber match than it was this time.

Kiara (43:25)
Yeah, I definitely agree with you. think that she was like, I'm not nobody's little sister no more. You know what saying? She's like, I'm grown and watch me work.

Tanesha (43:34)
not

that i'm groaned but you know what i hear you

Kiara (43:38)
But watch me work, right? Like, because

I'm like, she was, I mean, I just collapsed all around for Kalani. And she looks good as a TNA champion. And as I think about what's going on with the TNA division, remember, Ash having to retire and ⁓ some things going on with Masha Slamovich too. So there, looks like they're in a period of like rebuilding too, of trying to figure out what their women's division is gonna be. And so I like.

Tanesha (43:50)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Kiara (44:07)
Kalani as their champion right now. I think that it's a smart move and like, I don't know what's next for her either, right? Like I was like, I love that she has different challengers. Wonder if we could maybe put someone else that we really love in the mix there.

Tanesha (44:22)
I know,

I was saying, but to be clear, I do want Ms. Parker to win a championship, but I don't want her taking from Kalani yet. I want Kalani.

Kiara (44:26)
like Miss Parker.

No, I don't necessarily

want her to take it from Kalani, but I'm wondering if we mix her in with the TNA talent, what that would look like. So I think like, I'm sure we're gonna, like I said, like you just said about the stagnant-ness of some of these people, I do think and wonder like, can we mix some more people up to see how that goes, I think. All right, so let's talk about, ooh girl, this Call Your Shot gauntlet. Now I'm not gonna spend a lot of time on this because.

Tanesha (44:39)
what that'll look like for sure.

Kiara (45:00)
I loved it and we got the Hardee's and the Santana and the Williams of it all. But, Call Your Shot Gauntlet, I just wanna tell you, it is my true and personal and honest belief that more promotions should do these intergender matches because it was so fun to watch them face each other.

not you know not dependent on sex not dependent it just was so hilarious to watch like nick nemeth and ryan nemouth and then watching them in the ring with lee ling and ⁓ who else it was i'm sorry i can't remember their name right now but a lot of the other women they just mixed it in they were just together and it was a full and a complete match and

the ending was hella funny for Nick Nimeth and Frankie Kazari and to co-win. How the hell does that happen? I want to talk about that. But overall, I just thought it was amazing. And not just that match, the co-ed situation of the system and their hardcore match, too, that was my God, they won against, you know, Ali's group. But like, girl, can we do this again? Can we do more?

Tanesha (46:04)
Mm-hmm.

I do want to say,

I mean, what I will say is the tic tac, the tic tacs, the tic tacs. my God. The tics. The not tic tacs. To watch her get slammed, it was like, ⁓ I felt all of that. And then to watch Ali get slammed, then I was like, sorry, I don't see not one tic tac on you. I'm not tic tac, I don't see a tic. Yeah, I'm like, I don't see not one tic. I said, I don't see not one tic on you. You like, ⁓ I'm like, where are the tics? I don't see tics.

Kiara (46:19)
the tax that I'm not taking. Yeah, I got you. ⁓

First of all, he jumped onto the... He jumped onto the tax, ma'am.

Tanesha (46:42)
Did you just? Yeah, I guess how he was reacting initially.

Kiara (46:43)
Ali

If he was

smart, he put some oil on there where they just slid off. We love you. I just want to tell you that Ali, I love you deeply and I hope that you did.

Tanesha (46:55)
I mean, I think the first,

I mean, was the fact that, okay, maybe it was more so as a mom, I was like, you did that to yourself. So I don't see. Well, because I mean, like you said, he jumped on it. It was like, why did you do that? Like what you thought was gonna happen. But then too, I mean, maybe that's why for me, I know, but maybe that's why for me, I looked and I'm looking like you are overreacting. Like it didn't even hit you like that.

Kiara (47:01)
now you're doing the mom's thing sound? Okay. Not the only way.

He did. He did.

She was supposed to be there.

Tanesha (47:23)
felt that way either way. I did not watch the gauntlet match that's the one I have to watch it I will definitely watch it. ⁓ I did hear certain people were there but I don't know that could just be people talking so I will definitely watch it so I can confirm.

Kiara (47:27)
you have to. Yeah.

No, I will

truly admit that I didn't see the whole thing because again, I was coming in and I didn't have time to go back yesterday. I was playing sims, sorry. I didn't have time to go back yesterday. I was busy, you know what saying? I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. Y'all know I run like how many businesses. I got a lot going on. I need to take some downtime.

Tanesha (47:42)
Right.

I was being a sports mom yesterday. don't, I don't.

And sometimes we

are, I mean, at the end of the day, we are committed to this, but we are parents first in ourselves.

Kiara (47:58)
Yes. Yes, but I usually

drag my kids into it and drag them involved unwillingly.

Tanesha (48:04)
Well, yesterday I

couldn't do any of that. was definitely in sports mom road.

Kiara (48:09)
Yeah, well, you gotta do that, you gotta do that. So I didn't finish the whole thing, but I will, and I will give you guys an update from what I saw was the ending, and it was hilarious, and the very beginning. And then, again, I had seen the hardcore war. I saw some stuff with Tessa, but we're not gonna get into that, because again, we got a whole nother PLE to cover. But let's go into these Hardee's match, because I'm guessing you saw that at least, or as much of that as possible.

Tanesha (48:10)
Three hours. Anyway, what did you.

I did, I mean, I

saw as much of it as possible, because I think I also was at, I don't know where I was at. Anyway, I saw as much as possible. ⁓ At first, I will talk about the end, and then we go into the thing. I didn't realize at first until you told me no, re-look at it. So I had to re-look. I really was like, why is Devon only giving me one boot?

Kiara (48:57)
YouTube!

Tanesha (48:58)
But then I realized, I realized, I rewind, I went back and I saw him unlacing both and I said, okay. And then they did another camera angle and I was like, okay, he gave both. But initially the one can't, it was like, how do you take both of your boots off and you only give him one? But I mean, that was bittersweet, but you could tell they were old. I ain't gonna lie.

Kiara (49:17)
Why are you like this?

Jesus, okay. Yes, everybody in that match is a little beyond their prime, but I did enjoy it. I was, okay, this is where my mom nerves took a turn. I was praying the whole time.

Tanesha (49:26)
Sorry.

Okay, okay, this is where, okay, so

you did not prepare yourself for this one, but you prepared yourself for Javon and Leon. Okay, got it.

Kiara (49:41)
No. Because there

are 20 something. Yes, I was okay.

Tanesha (49:45)
But why would you not prepare

yourself for this one? Because clearly we got Jeff who does stupidity from anywhere. I'm just saying. I don't know why you wouldn't put... He definitely hit his head. He hit his head on something. He hit his head when he put D.Va onto the table. I think he hit his head on the ladder because he was like... And I was like, why y'all also the king of angles? We're not supposed to see them talking to y'all, okay? Anyway, I'm sorry.

Kiara (49:52)
awesome. Yeah. That Swanton almost didn't land appropriately. I was praying about the turning. I was praying as he was turning and hitting ground.

Okay,

well, it was good. I love that what I do want to say about that is that it was a great nostalgia piece. ⁓ Like I said, yeah, I did do a lot of praying because my God, please don't get hurt. But also, it was fun to relive my childhood a little bit. I felt like at the beginning, I was excited, like I was 16 again. Like I was like, this is cool. But then as I got through, was like, yeah, we all old, me old, you old, we all sitting here like, man, I'm not 16.

Tanesha (50:13)
I'm off my rant.

Like after that

match, they just look tired. We're gonna ice ourselves.

Kiara (50:41)
They look tired as hell, but I did think

it was a great, it was a good retirement on their own terms. And I love that. I love that they got to have that moment because not everybody does, right? All right, Santana and Trick. Okay, ooh girl, ooh girl. I was, girl, Trick, how could you lose it?

Tanesha (50:53)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

You

Kiara (51:05)
How?

First of all, I got something to say to these announcers. Okay? I didn't think things like that. But I'm just gonna say, I have a problem with the criticisms you had for Trick, considering Trick N' was the reason why this brand was freaking hot right now. Okay? So enough is enough. Huh?

Tanesha (51:11)
Yeah, they suck. ain't gonna lie. I think they suck.

it wasn't for Joe? No?

It wasn't for Joe? I thought you liked Joe. I thought Joe was the... ⁓ Okay.

Kiara (51:34)
No, I'm

talking about trick and A, I'm talking about the NXT situation moving over to TNA. Because I, Kiara, would not have purchased a TNA pay-per-view.

Tanesha (51:40)
Okay. Okay. ⁓

Kiara (51:48)
six months ago. Okay? But here I am invested in the talent mixing it up with the other brand and watching Trick and all his tricks to try to keep that title and mixing it up with the people in TNA. So give my guy his kudos because Trick brought all his charisma and his energy over to that brand and helped make them more relevant. Now he's not the only one.

Kalani's also helping. We've had lots of matches come over and cross the line, but I just want to say that because they were specifically saying whatever trick, you're not important, you didn't do good things for this brand. And I want to say that is a lie. The lie detector has detected that that is a lie because false. Because I was heavily invested in this match.

Tanesha (52:18)
but...

Kiara (52:45)
because of Trix nonsense with Mike Santana, because of their previous match. So okay, I'm done. I had to get that out, but... No, I'm okay. I could probably, but I'm good. I'm good.

Tanesha (52:53)
sure because I feel like it's still bumbling. I feel like you still got a little bit more that you gotta... Yeah that's why I

feel it. I feel it's like right here in the spirit.

Kiara (53:02)
I'm sure I gotta save my energy for my thoughts on.

Tanesha (53:06)
yes

we are, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

Kiara (53:08)
We gotta be

mindful about that energy. Okay, so that's it, cuz also time. So yeah, no, ⁓ that's all I'm gonna say. I liked the match. I thought it was great. It was beautiful watching Santana win, but, how could you? This was your moment to keep it.

Tanesha (53:24)
I'm trying to remember when he got his head busted. I always feel like I missed that. always be like, wait, when did you start pleading?

Kiara (53:31)
Did you black

out or something?

Tanesha (53:33)
Cause at one point I was like, when he hit him with the knee, said, maybe that's when he busted him open. And I was like, I don't remember that. I was like, I don't know. I don't know. But it was just like one of those things. But also, okay, I have one gripe. I'm not quite sure what was happening and maybe they said something and I just wasn't paying attention. But when Mike Santana had the whole red.

Kiara (53:39)
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know when he busted him open. I think I was eating.

Tanesha (53:57)
Was that him trying to, ⁓ what's the word I'm using? Trying to figure it out, hold on.

Kiara (54:05)
Represent a heritage or like be like a paint like a war paint. I felt like war paint I will say that do I know specifically?

Tanesha (54:07)
Yes, yes, yes.

I was like, is he, was he trying to represent,

was he trying to like insinuate also he has some indigenous culture in him as well? There you go, heritage. Cause that's the mealy, but I saw it. And of course then it threw me off when I saw the blood and I was like, wait, were you bleeding a whole time? I'm like, listen, I don't know. So it was just one of those like, okay, I have questions and feelings. Cause when you were in New York, you sure did not do that. I remember I was boniqua. Anyway.

Kiara (54:20)
Heritage? Yeah, maybe.

Well, did you see

Conan walking out with him?

No. So did you miss the beginning? That's probably when they explained that if they did. I don't remember them explaining that because I was too busy looking at Conan like, look at Conan! That's crazy.

Tanesha (54:42)
No. Yeah. Yeah.

But I love me some Conan. But

I will say the match was good. I expected it to be how it is. ⁓ Did I expect him to lose? To be honest, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I really expected him to lose when he was going against him, Joe Henry and Santana at some nursery and that didn't happen. Especially when he faked us out. He faked me out real good. I'll still never forget that. I was like, my God, I really don't understand. But I will say.

I don't think it's the end. think Trick may be coming back.

Kiara (55:24)
Well, right now, if you saw some of the NXT, yes or no?

Tanesha (55:28)
I did, I did, and

I'm not impressed.

Kiara (55:32)
He went back to beat up Ricky and I was like...

Tanesha (55:34)
I'm not impressed.

Kiara (55:36)
Question mark? Question mark? It's not even a question mark as in it's more like what? But you know Halloween Havoc is coming, so yeah, that's coming up. All right, let's talk Crown Jewel. I know, I went backwards, but it's it's cool. So we're gonna start with this Roman match that he was going against. I just wanted before, before you keep going, hold the thought, I just wanted to say the Roman match, which is the Australian street fight with Roman Reigns.

Tanesha (55:42)
I know, but anyway, okay.

I wanna say I'm very sad that we were wrong.

Kiara (56:04)
and Bronson Reed. Alright, now go.

Tanesha (56:07)
I wanna say that I'm very upset that we did not win. I'm upset. I'm upset.

Kiara (56:11)
I

picked Bronson Reed, I believe. Yes, I did.

Tanesha (56:14)
No, you didn't.

⁓ whatever. I'm upset. I am happy he didn't get his shoes taken.

Kiara (56:23)
Please don't do that.

Tanesha (56:24)
I mean, you know, so now he's gonna have to come up with a new name because he ain't the Tribal Thief anymore because he ain't taking no more shoes. ⁓ But I will say that match was really good. ⁓ Better than what I expected because I didn't know what to expect in an Australian street fight. But then again, it was really funny when he threw the rugby ball at Paul. That was funny. Paul was like,

Kiara (56:49)
That

wasn't the rugby ball. Wasn't that the football?

Tanesha (56:54)
No, he threw the football at Bronson. There was a rugby ball first, which was like a red ball. That's a rugby ball. And then the football was a yellow ball. He threw that at Bronson, at the Bron. Either way, now grain it.

Kiara (56:57)
Okay, sorry.

Tanesha (57:12)
I hate that no one can fight their battles on their own.

Kiara (57:15)
Not in the vision.

Tanesha (57:18)
You understand what saying? I ain't like that

because here comes the other brawn out of nowhere. Spear! What? Why? For what? What reason do we have?

Kiara (57:26)
Because

it was a street fight, obviously. It was to be expected for a street fight, right?

Tanesha (57:28)
I know, but why? I mean, I know, but

you wanna know something? I'm tired. I'm tired of everybody interfering in everybody's matches. Why can't we just have a clear? You won because I won. And then in true fashion, the Usos, our boys, came out to support Roman. Now granted, he did get a spare.

Kiara (57:38)
Because it was a straight fight, and it's the vision, and it's the bronze bronze.

Tanesha (57:52)
and he lost the match, but.

The aftermath.

not sure why I think I'm surprised. Because Roman is Roman. And then it goes, this is why you stay alone. Because you do stupidity. You're mad at them for coming to help you, because they're watching you get beat up by two people. What do you want somebody to come jump in if you getting jumped? I'm just saying, you getting jumped from different perspectives. They were trying to even the feel out. And technically, y'all were one up. So technically y'all shouldn't have lost either, because he was one up.

It's not even like Seth came out there to try to come fight, okay? I know, but I'm saying, it's not even like Seth came out or someone else came out to help them. Y'all had one up.

Kiara (58:27)
Seth was busy.

What does Bronson

Reed count as too?

Tanesha (58:36)
Maybe they both count as two people, who knows at this point.

Kiara (58:39)
Maybe it's two and

a half. Maybe we need to do some Steiner math with that, okay? Because maybe he had a 555 and two third percent chance of losing.

Tanesha (58:49)
Maybe. But either way, the table also folded too. That was hilarious. I watched the table fold and you could see Roman like, yeah, I'm fine.

But can we just talk about not till Christmas?

Kiara (59:02)
That was brutal because, you know, I have lots of relatives that I don't want to see. But I ain't gonna just dip out on you and say don't come till Christmas. Like, I definitely want you to come during Thanksgiving because you bringing something, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think that's important to know. You better bring something, you better not be empty-handed. But the fact that we got, we need two months to get over the situation? That's deep. But I will say, if I had to deal with that long, slightly tame...

Street Fight. The best part was the end. Watching Roman curse out the twins. And for Jay and to Jimmy be like, we was trying to help you.

Tanesha (59:43)
He's like, that's not how this works. This is not old times. going, sir, what was the old times? Them coming to help you and telling them they better help you even though you would like, I'ma do this on my own, but you better be there. Like what, sir, wink, wink. Don't show up. Or is it the fact that you lost? Cause I feel like if he won, he wouldn't be mad at them. He would be giving them koodles. Like, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Kiara (59:58)
He said I'm gonna do it on my own wink, wink.

Or maybe he wouldn't.

Like that's the problem. I was like, listen, Roman did say he wanted to do this on his own. And so I was like, maybe they just should have waited to the end of the match and he lost or won, you know what I'm saying? And then helped him. But I think it wasn't fair to recognize the fact that Jay got hurt trying to help you. Jimmy got hurt trying to help you.

Tanesha (1:00:24)
and then come out because then technically we like to have it on your own.

Kiara (1:00:38)
You know what saying? They was trying to help you. It's like, listen sir, like you said, sometimes there's some tough love that needs to happen here. And maybe somebody needs to slap a little sense into Roman. Because I'm like, what is happening? Are you forgetting that your 1000 and blah blah blah title reign is primarily due to the Usos? Jimmy and Jay's work. Jay in particular, because he was there. The right hand man.

So I'm like, you forgetting this Roman? Don't be disrespectful. You know what saying? That's how I'd be like, you know what? If I was Naomi, I'd be like, nah, he not welcome here for Thanksgiving. I'm gonna revoke your invitation. You don't get to be around to see the me and the baby right now. You gonna have to wait. You can watch this on social media.

Tanesha (1:01:24)
I mean, she already said who has ever been messing

with Big Jim, they gonna have to handle her when she comes back. So, I mean.

Kiara (1:01:32)
just saying. I just felt... I didn't love that match. I just want to say that. But I loved the drama after the match because that's the one thing I always, always loved about the bloodline is the cinema after the match. And so that was worth that street fight that felt a little... it was funny. Again, like the the balls and stuff. That was hilarious. Watching Paul jump.

I was like Roman did that on purpose. He wasn't trying to hit you. He only had tried to hit your feet because clearly, you know, there was some conversation about how they need to recruit him back in the NFL because you know some people's in need of support. But I don't watch that. I'm just saying I heard.

Tanesha (1:02:12)
I you know.

Kiara (1:02:13)
So yeah, but yeah, also yes, Bron Bron and his spear. But what was also way more entertaining that we later got that little, that was our foreshadowing apparently for Monday, was Paul Heyman and the bronze backstage talking about y'all know what to do if Seth don't win. And that he shocked and shaken when they did it on Monday. Like, what? What's happening? All right, let's move on to the women's match because.

Stephanie and Tiffany shut that shit down. Excuse my language, people. They shut it down.

I know some people are watching and they were like, a less cursing. Okay. So, they shut it down.

And I was so impressed to see Stephanie go over because first of all she should have been like that was not a question in my mind who should have won. I thought Stephanie was going to win in the first place. I thought Tiffany looked great but Stephanie? Oof. That girl looked like she was headed straight for the sky. I was like what kind of other titles can she have? Whereas I think Tiff Tiff might be in trouble of Julia coming near her for that title.

I think Tiff-Tiff is on notice here that ⁓ Julia might be coming for that situation so she could be a double champ because she definitely, she beat Tiffany, beat definitively so. But I thought it was a great match and I definitely enjoyed it being the lengthwise and the technicality and the fact that they, Stephanie is just a fantastic wrestler. And I think sometimes it's easy to forget that when you get caught up in the devil's kiss of it all. Like we see y'all out there.

Tanesha (1:03:48)
guess I'm not impressed with that.

Kiara (1:03:48)
I wasn't caught up in

that because a woman's a woman, but there you go. But I do think she has a lot of charisma, and I love that she's doing so much learning for Spanish and English, and I love it. I love the ways combining. I just thought that was a moment for her that she 100 % deserved.

Tanesha (1:04:07)
I mean, I will say, I think it's definitely time. I think I said Tiffany was gonna win, didn't I?

Kiara (1:04:13)
You did, I believe. Maybe.

Tanesha (1:04:15)
only because

of how they haven't got rid of the title and I just figured they're just gonna give it to another person who they're not really giving the title off and it just makes sense. ⁓ So I was very ⁓ surprised that Stephanie got it. And we even had a conversation too, what if Naomi was still here, how that would have played out and things of that nature. So either way, but even like seeing her accomplishments that she did throughout the year.

Kiara (1:04:37)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (1:04:42)
It makes sense. It makes sense for her to have won the crown jewel and to continue building her up. To me, yes, she's a great wrestler. Am I impressed with the Devil's Kiss? Not really. But that's just me. It's just everyone's impressed because you can see her ass shake up and down. That's about it. But I do like the fact that they're letting the... Letting them embrace their culture. I like the fact that they're allowing... ⁓

to speak in Spanish, because I feel like a long time ago, like that was kind of like, you need to learn and like, we didn't really talk to you, like stuff like that. So I'm really proud of that. Just like I'm proud watching Iyo and ⁓ the Kabuki Warriors talking Japanese to each other. Like to me, I'm like, yes, keep giving us different type of cultures because we as Americans need to know other cultures and understand that other cultures are makes the backbone of America. Okay, I'm gonna stop and get off that.

Kiara (1:05:34)
That's right.

Tanesha (1:05:40)
political plan because I'm gonna go a whole different thing but I do think it's well deserved I do think you know you may be right 100 % about Julia's coming there do I think Julia should be taking it from Tiffany I don't know I still have my thoughts and feelings I do think she's really good but I do I haven't ⁓ but what I have seen I mean yes I do

Kiara (1:05:57)
You haven't seen a lot of Julia, though.

Tanesha (1:06:03)
But do I feel like you're making all these upcoming stars become like the thing and we're starting to slowly forget all the other people? Yes. So that's probably why I'm kind of like on the fence of, okay, I see it. But then how long are you going to have her be double champ? Like what, like it'd be different if we knew a clear consenssion of what's happening. Like how we used to in the back of the day, like how getting your proper rematches, things of these different things that it wasn't a whole.

Even when Sasha and Charlotte kept going back and forth, it still was a buildup of them going back and forth. You know what saying? So that's where I feel like...

Kiara (1:06:35)
Yeah. And even like

Charlotte and Becky, right? Like it was pretty clear. Yeah.

Tanesha (1:06:40)
Yes.

It was always a back and forth thing. was always a, but it was, ⁓ but it was entertaining to watch the back and forth thing or even like with Bayley. Like it was still an entertaining thing to watch back and forth. So now I'm just, I'm just curious in the fact that they're up putting all the new players up here, where all the old players go and where that takes in. And then also, like we said about Jada, why is Jada not getting these pushes?

Kiara (1:07:00)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (1:07:09)
that everyone else are getting and she's been amazing. She's holding. So this is where that's where that question is. Would I rather see Jada come over and try to be a number one contender and try to take that off of Tiffany? Sure. Give me a shake up. Give me a good shake up. Or even like, I'm still gonna sit here and say, I think maybe some, even some of the main rosters to go to TNA. Shake it up a little bit.

Kiara (1:07:09)
Right.

Yeah.

You think so?

Tanesha (1:07:37)
I think so. Give us a little bit more of a shake and be like, Ooh, because just like you said, you got in through with trick winning the championship. And now that's why you're invested in TNA, right? Imagine if we have other people who right now on the main roster, they don't have a storyline. They don't really know what to do with them. And now they just, we keep putting new players back. Like, I think that would be a great, if you're trying to really partnership, let's do that.

Kiara (1:07:49)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (1:08:06)
or just like how we have Natty going to the dungeon, but Natty also wants to evolve. Like, shake it up. Like, if we're gonna shake it up, shake it all the way up. Like, ugh! All right, I'm

Kiara (1:08:11)
Yeah.

No, no, I agree with you.

I'm trying to, I'm looking on the roster right now, because I'm like, they combine the roster now, so they don't split it by like, you know, SmackDown and not that I've seen, which I think is interesting, because I'm like, that's new. I was like, can, oh yeah, you can, okay, my bad. I was just trying to check. And I was like, who else can we mix it up with? Like, we have the B-Fabs, we have Candice hanging out, Chelsea's in the background trying to find her a replacement for Piper. But I'm like,

Tanesha (1:08:24)
shows anymore.

Yeah, and

as- Listen, when she asked, I was like, girl, what? Did you just ask Stephanie Vaquer to be your person?

Kiara (1:08:46)
That didn't make no sense. But yeah, I

think we need, you know what, this is what I mean. We need some more women on SmackDown, because based on what we got going on, we got other people everybody busy. So yeah, I get it. I could see what you're saying now as I'm trying to look through the list, because I was like, who else can we mix it up with? Well, that's why we need some more people. We need some more people.

Tanesha (1:09:05)
But that's what I'm saying, shaking up.

Because even with the inspiration, I ain't gonna lie, we didn't talk about their match, but their match was kinda, first off, I don't know, like, shake it up.

Kiara (1:09:17)
I like the inspiration match.

Tanesha (1:09:18)
I do like the inspiration.

I'm saying I like it, but I'm not saying it was like, ooh. But I feel like if they were, cause I also don't think the Elegance brand is that great. But anyway.

Kiara (1:09:28)
Okay, can we get back to WWE and take away from TNA at the moment? But I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying, yes.

Tanesha (1:09:32)
Sorry. Sorry. I'm just because we were

both so passionate about the women wrestling and it's just frustrating to watch. And I'm not saying people don't deserve time, but it's also like what happens to the ones who deserve it too. Like mention, she deserves it too. What's going on? And that's why I'm.

Kiara (1:09:39)
Yes, 100%.

Me, too. Yeah, she does. And I think, again, we talk about building

these stories, right? And how, like you were saying, like, that stuff is kind of missing right now. And I think it's fair to say that's kind of missing right now because it feels like it is. Because, again, like, as you that's why I was trying to see, was like, who is on the roster? Like, who's active on the roster right now for Smackdown? I was like, not that many people, ⁓ which is probably the problem.

if you were to ask me, it's probably the issue, which is why we have the Souls and the Zarias coming over. And so I'm like, well, if Charlotte and Alexa are going to be busy with Zaria and Soul...

I mean, who's Tiffany going against? Is she going to go back to Jade?

Don't look at me like.

Kiara (1:10:38)
All

So let's keep going with E.O. and Ria, I think, in the Kabuki Warriors. So I know you just mentioned some of this, but it seems Asuka and Kari are a little bit more on the same page than we thought, clearly.

Tanesha (1:10:52)
But that's something I said. I said she was doing a whole bunch of, I'm poor as me, no. You are on the same thing. We're just trying to reel Iyo in and it didn't work. I am happy that I was wrong, that Iyo did not turn on Rhea. Do I think it's going to eventually happen at some point? Maybe, I don't know. The story is still developing, but I do see them trying to make them an attack team.

Kiara (1:11:14)
Okay, Iyo and Ria into attack team.

mean, maybe. It is.

Tanesha (1:11:18)
It's different. It's different. And they

do have good chemistry together. Period.

Kiara (1:11:25)
They

do. I don't know. Like you said, this one's still developing, so jury's out on it. I don't know how I feel about them as a tag team. I've been trying to figure this out for a couple days now or a couple weeks now, just trying to figure out how I feel about it. Like out of necessity, it makes sense, but in general, ⁓ But I do like the idea of Iyo and Asuka. I've said that before, but I'd love to see those two just tear it down. ⁓ So we'll see how that goes. All right, let's talk John Cena and AJ Styles girl.

They pulled out all the hits on this one.

Tanesha (1:11:56)
I'm going to say you may feel away, but I'm going to say that was the match of the night.

Kiara (1:12:01)
That was the match of the Night for you.

Tanesha (1:12:02)
Yeah, you know why? One, how John Cena pretty much introduced AJ Styles. How he made, how he did that. And I don't think AJ knew that was happening. I just think it was just like, and it was more so, it was good to watch. I guess, especially since AJ just announced that he is going to retire. Like next year is it, that's it, he's done. So to know that John is retiring.

Kiara (1:12:10)
I loved that.

Mm-mm.

Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (1:12:28)
This is his last thing and this is going to be their last match period together. Regardless, cause he was retiring, but I think it made it so much special. Ler. I don't know if that's word. ⁓ and the things and pretty much giving him, as we say, giving him his flowers while he's here, present to receive them, to accept them and to watch his face go, Whoa, wait a minute. Hold on. You're pulling things out the hat.

Kiara (1:12:30)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

more special.

Tanesha (1:12:57)
Um, and really seeming genuine like, yo, wow. Like you didn't have to do that. You didn't have to like make them say all these things about me. Like I'd like, so it was good to see that. And then also, you know, his gear, I saw somewhere that they talked about his gear was pretty much one of his gears that he wore in TNA. So it was like one of those, like it was a nostalgic moment, but also I want to say a full circle moment in essence, right? But they're a match.

Kiara (1:13:24)
Yeah.

Tanesha (1:13:27)
to watch John pretty much ⁓ pay tribute to people that he feels expired, ⁓ why can't I say the word right now? Inspired him along his wrestling journey to watch him, especially once he did Sister Abigail. I think the whole world kind of went, ⁓ my goodness.

Kiara (1:13:38)
I'm

Yeah, I felt my eyes start to water. I was like, ⁓ touch my heart.

Tanesha (1:13:52)
like

because

That just shows how so many, I mean one, how Bray Wyatt touched so many people and how he was just a genius. But it was just watching him pretty much, it started off with AJ Styles, but pretty much just going, I'm going to sit here. This is my opportunity. My match is going to be where I'm pretty much saying thanks, giving flowers to everyone by doing their moves. But it was still, it was so action packed. You never knew.

Like me and you, were watching it, we were like, what's happening? What's going on? Who did it? I don't know. And you did not know who was gonna win. It could have went either way, because even AJ was hitting some stuff, you were like, sir.

Kiara (1:14:25)
Yeah. Yeah.

Right, I was like, ooh, I was doing the same thing.

Tanesha (1:14:34)
Sir, we were

like, both were like, huh, wait, to have that. And that's why I say it was a minute. And because we were on the edge of our seat and I know Cody and Seth, we were on our seat too. But I just felt something about this match. was just, it was really special. And it was really like, feel like as these matches go on, is getting better and better. John, they're pretty much showing John's like, nah, I have to give y'all because.

Kiara (1:14:50)
It was special.

Tanesha (1:15:03)
I am done and I'm not, I'm not going to do no little pop-up. I'm actually done. So the fact to watch him just keep getting better and better, ⁓ it's going to be bittersweet when his last matches and I'm not really, I am a John Cena fan and I'm already still feel like I'm tearing up. I don't know why, but it's just to watch it end of an era. And that's what it felt like watching it end of an era in that match. What you thought?

Kiara (1:15:27)
You know what? I'm actually going to agree with you. I do think that was the match of the night because it kept my attention. We kept like, you know, we were having emotional moments to it. I do think it touched my heart in a lot of ways and made me think, you know, about his gratitude. He seemed like he was super grateful for all the experiences and all his opponents. And in a retirement tour, there's nothing better than that. Right.

Tanesha (1:15:55)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (1:15:57)
And I felt like they both worked hard to give us a match that was fantastic. It was just more than we typically expect from WWE stuff sometimes, also it paid off in a way that it was kind of like it was a random match to us. Okay, we asked for it or somebody asked, I didn't ask for it. ⁓ It just happened.

Tanesha (1:16:15)
I'm about to say there was no buildup to this. just like this y'all gonna get this match.

Kiara (1:16:21)
And I'm not saying that I didn't ask for it in a bad way. I just was like, okay, that's a random choice, but I loved it. I loved it. And it's one of my biggest complaints in general that AJ Styles is just so good and you don't get to see him like that anymore. So it was really great to see Cena and him put together this just, it's a banger. It was a banger and it was beautiful. And when the fireflies came out, my eyes watering.

Tanesha (1:16:45)
I didn't want to mention that because

I was like, I'm already on the verge of tears because I'm like, ⁓

Kiara (1:16:49)
I'm not even swattering.

Because I just, you know I'm not the biggest John Cena fan, but I definitely, it touched me and it made me think, he's a good dude. Like I already think he's a good dude anyway for all the wonderful things he does outside the ring. And when I say I don't like John Cena, I'm talking about like the character rather obviously than the person, because we don't know the person. But it touched me in a lot of ways from the character perspective, which I didn't expect. So.

Tanesha (1:16:54)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Kiara (1:17:18)
I did like that match a lot. And now let's go to the one, this crown jewel moment with Seth and Cody. Well, ⁓ I like to say I was right because I said he better win this.

Tanesha (1:17:28)
You were, but there was a moment,

if I swear, if I should have recorded her face, there was a moment where she, and I don't even know what I was doing. I just know we both were on mute. I know what I was doing. I was dancing. That's what I was doing. There was, she literally paused her whole face and I said, and she was like, ooh, I was like, ⁓ wait, wait.

Kiara (1:17:36)
I was livid.

The whole face changed.

Tanesha (1:17:57)
Cause it almost looked like Cody almost won and her face went, I was like, Ooh, I see you all right over there. She's like, he better not, he better not, he better not win. I was like, okay, we're having a moment.

Kiara (1:18:11)
Yeah, I was deeply,

deeply into this truth. He better not win. And he didn't. But again, it reminds me how damn good Seth Rollins is. Like, I keep saying this, like he doesn't have these bad matches. He is just so freaking gifted. And the way that he and Cody, their chemistry together is just like it's a it's I don't even know if I have the words. It's a little bit unremarkable. It's a little bit magic. Like it's just something that they have together that really makes

their matches must see. So even though, yeah, we were kind of complaining about getting this match again, I'm not, know, fair enough. We knew what we were gonna expect greatness, but it was on another level. And I love that he pulled out the Rolex and that damn watch. Cody, if this is not another reminder not to give nobody nothing, let that be a reminder again, because that's why he won.

Tanesha (1:18:49)
Mm-hmm.

Or maybe not get them a watch. Maybe don't

get them a watch. Get them a puppy. They gotta love it. I don't know.

Kiara (1:19:11)
puppy. Call the police. point is, I feel it was another reminder, no more gifts, Cody. You just have to get them a gift card, you know what saying? What are they gonna do with that? Get them a gift card. What, get them, just write them a like a card or something. Yeah, yeah, no, let them buy what they want. Give it digitally, you know what I'm saying? Like that way there's no physical actual stuff to hit you with.

Tanesha (1:19:20)
Ooh, there you go, there you go. Get them a gift card and they can buy whatever they want to buy.

Kiara (1:19:36)
But it was a great match and I loved the ending and you know I was happy. I literally wrote, I think I wrote on Twitter perfection. I did. Perfection.

Tanesha (1:19:41)
She jumped up. Okay, so let me explain guys. I was doing dance. I was

sweating bullets watching African, in African class with my earpiece in my ear, sitting here listening and I had to come back over so I'm like, what are y'all doing with so, in between dance moves, okay? So then, and I remember when he pulled out that watch, I said him and his damn watch. And then just for it to actually, I didn't expect him to pull it out from the thing and hit him with the thing. I was like, my God. I'm like, that's a little.

Aren't you sweaty? Like that's just nasty. But, but how quickly he put it away too. Like, I don't know. I don't know what happened. I didn't do anything. He didn't, I don't know. But I am, I will say, I am happy that Seth did win and it was a different outcome because you are right. How many can Cody collect of these crown jewels? Okay. He got two. Let's, it's time to switch it over. However, I guess we'll get into it, but I feel like since he,

Kiara (1:20:13)
my God.

That's.

Tanesha (1:20:40)
Ceph1, he's turning soft.

Kiara (1:20:45)
Okay, now I was, before we get into Raw, I wanna say this time ESPN rated it, I believe, a B minus. So if you had to rate this crown jewel, what grade would you give it?

Tanesha (1:20:55)
wow.

I mean, it's definitely better than wrestling Palooza. I don't know when I get wrestling Palooza. I don't even know if we get, oh, I did? Oh, I did? Oh yeah, okay. So then I would say it was a B plus.

Kiara (1:21:08)
a C.

You agreed and it will see. Yeah, you agreed that it

Tanesha (1:21:16)
I ain't gonna say today.

Kiara (1:21:17)
give it a good B plus too. I was like I don't think it's an A yet there's a couple things that we could have maybe done a little bit better like add more titles ⁓ have a little bit more than like five matches also being at eight o'clock

Tanesha (1:21:27)
Granted, someone in the comments, I'm about

to say also in the comments, someone was saying that this is the mid-car, sir. So what? This is like, those other titles are not for mid-cars. That's the whole point.

Kiara (1:21:40)
Right. And since we no longer do like survivor series title for title, to me, moving it to Crown Jewel actually makes it better.

Tanesha (1:21:48)
Especially since they got rid of Night

of Champions being that it just became some random.

Kiara (1:21:52)
Thank

you. I'm just saying it makes it better, at least for me. Anyway, that being said, like B, B as well. So let's talk about...

Alright, let's briefly go over a couple things for SmackDown. So this MFT situation, and then we're gonna wrap it up with Raw. Because yes, I have thoughts on that softness you were just mentioning there. But alright, so I wrote poor Sammy and Shinsuke. That's what I wrote in my notes, was like, Sammy and Shinsuke. However, the MFT who are now, don't, anyway, I think they changed the name.

Tanesha (1:22:12)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (1:22:28)
from My Family Tree to something else. But y'all can tell me if I'm wrong in the chat if it's something else now, but I feel like it might be something else. Nonetheless, this new white paint situation, it is giving dangerous, it is giving vicious, it is giving faction in the way that the My Family Tree was not.

And so thank you, whoever decided to reconfigure this situation. It's unfortunate they had to lay out Sami Zayn and not Shinsuke, but casualties have to be had sometimes. I wrote that down too. They have to be had sometimes when it comes to this kind of, know, what's the word?

Anyway, when it comes to the situation. No. I can't think of what I'm saying right now. I'm told I'm a little tired. can't remember. Point is, beautiful job. Beautiful job creating a faction that feels dangerous enough to F with the Wyatt Six. Considering I also didn't love that the street profits lost again. I didn't love that. I still don't. I don't know where we're going next with that.

Tanesha (1:23:14)
Okay.

Warriors? Okay.

Kiara (1:23:42)
But I do appreciate the Wyatt Six in this MFT situation. And maybe we finally move those damn titles because yeah, please and thank you. And also really Nikki, we're about to square off with solo like.

Not my choice. Not a choice I would have had.

Tanesha (1:24:02)
She's just trying to say I'm never

scared.

Kiara (1:24:05)
She ain't never scared and I respect it. She ain't never scared, but I respect it. ⁓ nope. Nope. Not what I would have done. So what'd you think about their, their new look? What we're doing there.

Tanesha (1:24:15)
I

I definitely think I'm happy that all the, I about to say Tomatonga's back, so I think that it's actually, that's good to have everybody back together in the fold. Definitely, was like, oh, if we, if the lights turn off, you would be ghost, got it, got it. It's definitely something new. My first was like, why y'all beating them up? And then I was like, whatever.

Kiara (1:24:18)
And Tomatonga's back.

Tanesha (1:24:40)
Yes, I'm still not happy that, you know, for whatever reason, we can't give the titles back to the Street Profits, why it's still on the Wyatt 6, even if it was for the Wyatt 6 to go up against the new MFTs.

they could have still went up against them.

Kiara (1:24:54)
They still killed the tag team division.

Tanesha (1:24:55)
That's what I'm saying.

They still could have went up against them. Know what saying? They still could have went up against them and just wouldn't be for the tag team. give me that good fra- like, you know, there's like how- yes, give me that good fraction war. Like how when, when Bray Wyatt and the Wyatt family came, it was, they were just beating up, like it was, and then you had the shield and them and then the mind games and the twisted and the- they didn't have no titles. They were just- those fractions made sense. So I'm gonna-

Kiara (1:25:04)
Faction Wars, that's right.

They was just beating people, yeah.

Tanesha (1:25:23)
We gonna fight and we just gonna fight and blah blah blah blah. So I felt like they could have still did that. Because what my fear is, they're gonna do this. And let's say they exchange titles. Now they're gonna have titles and no one else is gonna win.

Kiara (1:25:37)
You think everybody's gonna be scared of them like they're scared of the Wyatt Six? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think, but they're not mystical. You know I'm saying? So I feel like they're still men and I feel like maybe it'll re-energize the tag team division. I'm hoping, cause it didn't, it was too good to just die the way it did. I'm like, did you feel that in the creative room? Did you feel that? Cause I did. Like when you realize that all your hard work just died right there, I mean, I did just watching.

Tanesha (1:25:41)
Yeah, because I got this new look. I mean...

Mmm, okay.

Kiara (1:26:06)
So it had to be devastating looking at it. Like it was such must-see TV that it became like,

Tanesha (1:26:12)
I mean, yes, it did, but I also feel like it's always gonna be a number game, right? If you don't have enough people, so there's only, let's say the street profits go up against them, they win it, right? You still are a number game because they're still gonna have to worry about people interfering. And I think that was the one thing I appreciate about Seth winning on his own. He didn't have them interfere. understand I'm saying? So that's where it comes into like the little squabble, cause like,

Kiara (1:26:34)
Okay. Fair.

Tanesha (1:26:41)
Are y'all really winning on your own or do y'all have like random people like popping up to scare you to do? Like, I don't know. That's how I feel.

Kiara (1:26:48)
That's fair. That's fair. I will say one of my favorite things for Saturday, I mean Friday nights is that Sami Zayn Open Challenge. So it has really been fun to see who's showing up. It's been great to see all the different challengers. So I hope that continues because that's the thing that's really giving me life and Alistair and Zelina. Because this match between Alistair and Damien Priest was

Tanesha (1:27:08)
Listen, listen now that match, that match.

That's right, because I think I made sure I think you didn't watch because you was working. So I was like, no, no, no. How am I finished before you? You need to.

Kiara (1:27:15)
Delightfully fun.

Yes, you were finished before me, but I promptly came back. So watch that match before the night ended because I was so excited that we're finally getting this couple done that I've been asking for. And Zelina, girl, her outfit was giving dangerous demonic figure. I don't, I don't know. It was beautiful.

Tanesha (1:27:34)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

sophisticated and sophisticated at the same time. A girl from Queens,

Rep Queens.

Anyway.

Kiara (1:27:49)
Okay,

we're gonna do that for her. All right, we're gonna do it. But it was great. I thought, and it was, got fire. You know how long it's been since we've got fire?

Tanesha (1:27:56)
I know, and I was kind of like, I was like, wait,

was like, did he hit you? Where did he hit you? I just want to make sure he didn't hit you somewhere random.

Kiara (1:28:03)
No, it was in the face.

Kiara (1:28:05)
Alright, let's talk Monday night raw. Cause, ooh, we had some serious breakups and some deeply unsettling things that happened. And I know I said I was going to hold off on my thoughts about Seth, and I have. And so let's just start it off about the visions, nonsense that had happened here. Because I'ma start it off and tell you.

Seth, we knew this was gonna happen. But I don't know what happened to you. I mean, there was a moment there where it seemed that you forgot that you can't trust people, especially at least one of the bronze who tsunami'd you into hell at the beginning of the situation. But I would like to know why we suddenly trusted woof woof woof guy.

Tanesha (1:28:58)
Not a woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof

Kiara (1:29:02)
would really like to know how like we decided to get played by Bondbreaker. Like I... What made you think that he just would listen to you all the time? Were you not paying attention to what was happening backstage? We all saw Paul Heyman have his conversation with the Brons about what could potentially happen.

Should you not beat Cody?

This is where Becky would have been real helpful. It was a terrible week for the Mrs. to miss the show.

Alright, I'm done.

Tanesha (1:29:39)
She was having

a moment. was having a moment and Seth kind of like tuned her out.

Kiara (1:29:44)
She was, she was, but maybe there should have been more listening.

Tanesha (1:29:49)
I mean I will say that Like I said Seth got soft all of a sudden and was just giving them all this praise and appreciation Now I ain't gonna lie brawn breaker He looked evil while he smiled like yeah meanwhile Bronson was like wow thanks my god and and and and

⁓ what's his name, Paul, he even was like, see, I know, see, look, I picked the right side. See, I knew I did the right thing, you know? And hearing him just speak like, you know, so highly, I was just like, ⁓

Kiara (1:30:18)
Bye.

Tanesha (1:30:32)
you beats cody so now the evil genius is gone i don't what this was just what

Kiara (1:30:37)
We just share all the love, just all the love and flowers

and rainbows and butterflies.

Tanesha (1:30:42)
Like what? When did that happen? Okay. And then...

Kiara (1:30:44)
Exactly.

Tanesha (1:30:46)
They come out. So I'm trying to remember how he came out and how all of a sudden, oh, was it, oh, I know, cause that's, oh, this was the other one I told you that you needed to watch cause you know, it was eight something in the morning and you were tired and I finished watching Ro before you did, which is like an epiphany cause you know, I never do. I always watch it after. Anyway, I understand that. I get it. I got you. But I remember this was the must-see and it makes sense. It makes sense, no. Why?

Kiara (1:31:05)
was working.

Tanesha (1:31:16)
It happened because I know we're gonna get to it, but I gotta touch on it because I can't get to my point if I don't touch on it. CM Punk winning. Now granted, that was a good match. That could have went anyway. But CM Punk winning and it made sense. It clicked to me in that moment why what was going to happen and why Seth was being so calm and collective. And I went, ⁓ we are setting it up for CM Punk versus Seth.

Kiara (1:31:23)
Okay.

what's gonna happen.

Tanesha (1:31:45)
And I think Sam Punk is gonna win because he ain't gonna have nobody. And this is before they even did the turn. It just, because I still remember the linging of what happened, what was said yesterday. So I think he was just feeling so confident that nothing was going to happen now since he beat Cody. Why not? Now granted, let me get to the point of what we talked about and what I feel. So now watching them turn. First off.

I don't know why he didn't see it coming with Bron Breaker because Bron all of a sudden became the leader when Seth was injured. I don't know where he just he just appointed himself leader and he was gonna run this thing and then after remember even after Seth came back and showed he wasn't injured they technically were starting to separate anyway. They weren't always coming out together.

Kiara (1:32:22)
He appointed himself leader, remember.

Tanesha (1:32:36)
It wasn't a thing. It became Seth and Becky and the vision was just in the background. They were just over here. That's why I don't know why they anyway. So. ⁓

to get to my point, to watch. Cause at first I was watching, was like, I don't know how this happened. Cause everybody looks great. Then to watch Bron Break or go into that corner and go, I'm about to get you. Yep. ⁓ And ⁓ bam. Whoa, wait a minute. When I can tell, if we can zoom in on Bronson and Paul, they both looked at him like, whoa.

Kiara (1:33:01)
Is that what that is?

What the? That's what they looked at him like.

Tanesha (1:33:18)
What

did you just, we weren't doing this. It was only supposed to be lost. What is happening? And I ain't gonna lie, they look scared. They look really scared. Cause, and I was trying to figure out why Bronson was scared. Cause he's bigger than that man. And he kissed tsunami that man multiple times. I'm not understanding why he was scared. And why all of a sudden he was just like, I don't know. All right, I'ma join ya.

You know what saying? And then Paul was just like, why did y'all just do that? And he was scared. And Bron, whatever, Roof Man, he was like, either y'all with me or y'all about to get this too.

Kiara (1:34:07)
I'm sorry. My apologies.

Tanesha (1:34:09)
But I'm saying, no, no, no. I know I said it

weird too, but it's okay. Cause you know, I'm very animated. So it was like, you with me? Like if you see his face, cause even Bronx was like, I think I'm with you. don't, all right fine, I'm with you, okay. Like it was like, it was like the big brother who was the bad influence that you know you gotta go with him or you gonna be out to drive.

Kiara (1:34:17)
Mm-hmm.

So he was so he's scared is what you're saying. You saying you saying Bron the short Bron. Well, I mean, Bron, Sen Reed was scared of of Wolf Wolf Bron. OK.

Tanesha (1:34:36)
Yeah, absolutely. And I don't know why I

Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And Paul

was definitely scared.

Kiara (1:34:48)
Paul should have been scared of both of them. Okay, there was no if, answer, buts about that.

Tanesha (1:34:51)
He was definitely

scared of both of them. Even when he raised his hand, was like, said, that face looks like, yeah, I'm an evil genius, but I'm also scared, so I'm just doing this to survive. Thank you. Solo, taking over. No? Yep.

Kiara (1:35:01)
You know what it reminded me of?

It reminded me of the fear in Paul's face when Solo was in his face. And so I was like, E2 Brutus, E2. It feels like we've done this already. And did we learn nothing?

Tanesha (1:35:18)
I can see him trying to crawl back to Roman and Roman's gonna look at him like, go away.

Kiara (1:35:19)
Did we learn nothing, Seth?

I know, right?

Tanesha (1:35:25)
Go away.

Kiara (1:35:27)
Unless

he is truly injured and then, you know, bygones be got bygones. I hate that for him. ⁓ However, I want a healthy Seth. So whatever that takes, whatever it takes. But yeah, I was mad. I'm not even gonna pretend I wasn't mad. I was livid while I was watching it. I was screaming, no Seth, no. How could you just not see this coming? It was heartbreaking. ⁓

Tanesha (1:35:39)
for sure.

Kiara (1:35:55)
But we'll back it up some to talk about Jey Uso and Jimmy Uso.

Tanesha (1:36:00)
Listen.

Listen.

Kiara (1:36:00)
This

relationship is getting far more complicated than I have ever asked for. Okay? I feel, now y'all know I wrote in my journal over here, y'all know I pissed off Jimmy. How did you piss off Jimmy? Jimmy is the most happy-go-lucky dude ever. And both Roman and Jay have pissed off Jimmy. That's how you know you not effed up, in my opinion. So I'm like, listen, guys, okay?

I was getting excited about my usos back together and doing all that. I don't know where we at. I feel like.

Tanesha (1:36:33)
And matching gear,

they got matching gear. I was like, yeah. And I was like.

Kiara (1:36:37)
And then he had the audacity to get mad because he had to save his brother.

Tanesha (1:36:42)
He did. I was like, how you mad at him that you had to come down there?

Kiara (1:36:47)
You know what that reminds me of? My kids. My kids. Like, you know, the boy child will tell the girl child, like, listen, I told you not to do this. And she'll do it. And then the boy child is mad that he had to step in because he told the girl child not to do it. So that reminded me of that. And I thought to myself, this is a good parenting lesson. Sometimes you do have to let people fall. But when it's your family, you don't do that in front of everybody.

You what I'm saying? You wait till you behind the scenes and then you cuss them out appropriately and tell them you ain't gonna do it again. Now you know you will, but that's not the point. You tell them that you won't do it again. But you two? Y'all better get on one accord because you can't win like this. You can't win like this.

Tanesha (1:37:33)
And you definitely can't beat

Roman with y'all nonsense either, okay? But yes, I would say Jimmy's like, well fine. I was just trying to do something right. Y'all not gonna keep trying to tell me I did something wrong, because I was trying to do something right. How I messed up? And I'm sitting here saying, and you're like, but then again, Jay has a good point. Roman once again, is thinking about himself.

Kiara (1:37:55)
We know this. Roman does this. This is not. Roman has not changed. This is why I'm like, y'all acting like he done came up with a brand new situation. He'd been the same way the entire time. It's just that we have allowed him grace. They have allowed him grace. forget. It's like one of those, you know, horrible relationships where you think they're going to change. I'm going to make this work. They're going to recognize and value me as a person. No, they aren't.

Tanesha (1:37:57)
This is what Roma does.

Kiara (1:38:25)
They aren't.

I just want you out there, if you're thinking that way about this relationship you're in, no, they're not. And it's okay to let them go.

Tanesha (1:38:35)
You done with the PSA

gotcha. And wait, and Jay was like, now I'm injured,

What you thought was gonna happen? You were still injured from, you was injured from the other night. Y'all were both injured from the other night. So I don't understand, you were injured anyway.

Kiara (1:38:43)
Like.

They had matching wraps on their ribs. Matching. Can we talk about that? Maybe y'all need to get y'all some cushion underneath them clothes.

Tanesha (1:38:57)
First

off, I wanna say, I love you, Jimmy and Naomi, don't kill me. But homie, there's a problem when your wrap is showing all your muffin top. I need you to get your life together. I know I'm not one to talk, but brother, you are more active than me. And I know you'd be up in that gym. I don't understand why the muffin top was just, and then I'm like, that's why it wouldn't stay because you just, I don't know. You know what, we can strike that, strike this from the.

Kiara (1:39:20)
You know what?

Don't want her.

Tanesha (1:39:27)
Strike that from the record. I love Naomi and Okay, we're gonna strike you from the record.

Kiara (1:39:29)
can't believe she said this. Listen, the

one thing my husband appreciated the most when I was pregnant is he got to eat just as much as I did because we was always eating.

Tanesha (1:39:40)
You know what, I forgot, he

could be eating with her on FaceTime, because she definitely was in Paris living it up.

Kiara (1:39:46)
I just,

anyway. All right, let's talk about more Kari. No, wait. No, we're not going to do Kairi Sane yet. We're going to talk about Bayley Let's take a moment. I love this cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs Bayley. I love it. I almost love the way she's tormenting Lyra. I hope this is all a plan to torment Lyra's ass because she really deserves it.

Tanesha (1:40:08)
Why? No, she don't. Lolli don't deserve that.

Kiara (1:40:11)
Yes she does. She

took Bayley for granted. How many times? And then when Bayley was trying to go after the Intercontinental title, she was in the way.

Tanesha (1:40:15)
When?

correctly, Bayley left her.

because she was angry at Becky.

Kiara (1:40:25)
That has nothing to do with anything except that she deserves it. So if you make her a little cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs Bayley, well, listen, wah, she'll survive. Eventually. But right now, I'm enjoying this Bayley that is happy one minute and crazy the next. So...

Tanesha (1:40:45)
I feel like that's all of us at some point in time.

Kiara (1:40:47)
Sometimes people take you to that point where you just got to, you lose it a little. As a mother, I can tell you.

Tanesha (1:40:54)
I definitely might say something, but you know, it's cool cool cool cool cool out here in these streets. Yeah, some people out here just don't know their place. And sometimes you have to gently or roughly remind them who you are or who rolls with you.

That's all.

Kiara (1:41:12)
Anyway, like I said, I'm enjoying it. I'm also enjoying Raquel and Roxanne more and more by the week because they kind of fit together. I don't know. I know I think I've said this before. Liv is going to have all the thoughts and feelings when she gets back.

Tanesha (1:41:23)
I don't know how Liv is gonna feel when she comes back. Cause that's gonna be a,

I can feel it already. Like it's playing in my head. Gonna be like, you were my best friend. So how, you used to have my back. Now I gotta watch YouTube.

Kiara (1:41:35)
I mean...

Okay, so I know we said this is the other thing we just talked about is that the vision broke up before the judgment day

Tanesha (1:41:46)
That is true and that's kind of ridiculous.

Kiara (1:41:48)
Or

maybe they just kicked Seth out, I don't know. But either way, because I think Bronson said this is a new vision or some nonsense like that. So I don't think we know if the vision is just going to keep moving and just Seth is kicked out. But I know! That's what I said. So I don't get it. I was like...

Tanesha (1:42:00)
But he's the visionary. So technically there is no vision without the visionary.

It was easy

to kick Edge out because I don't, it was easy for that because what is he? The head dungeon judge? I don't know, like that didn't make any sense. It made sense to kick him out and y'all still be Judgement Day. It does not make sense for y'all to still be the Vision when you kicked out the Visionary.

Kiara (1:42:24)
to know what his his thought process at the beginning. We should be calling them BronBron's. But I want to know because at the beginning he did have this whole thought where he's talking to Paul about greatness coming. What was that?

Tanesha (1:42:26)
They should just be called the Bron-Bron's.

That was them. He pretty much made them superstars.

Kiara (1:42:43)
that he was talking about them? I don't think it was.

Tanesha (1:42:45)
I mean, ultimately he made

them superstars. mean, they were superstars in their own right, he made, like, Bronson wasn't, Bronson was just a destruction force that I'm just gonna keep synomining everybody, because I just wanna break your body. But yes, he gave him a focus. And I feel like with Bronbreaker, he gave him a focus too. And granted,

Kiara (1:42:58)
So he gave him a focus, yes.

He also gave him a focus. And now

their common focus is kicking him out.

Tanesha (1:43:09)
Maybe because he gave that touching speech and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is not a vision we had.

Kiara (1:43:11)
Okay, anyway.

Alright, let's talk about Dominic Penta in this Rusev situation. I would like to tell Dom that I appreciated the way you backed up when you realized Rusev was there having a moment, because you're like, nope, won't be me. And I just want to tell you, same. Same. I thought the same thing. I was like, please back up my guy, because they don't need to see you. But this match with Penta was fantastic. Dom is so good. He's so...

good and I love that for him, Mr. Double Champion. But you also got your family into trouble because you had the audacity to go talk to Adam Pearce and tell him about how you're the only one defending titles. ⁓ That's crazy.

That's crazy and I don't think that's going to be well received. I just don't feel.

Tanesha (1:44:12)
don't think

it was well received, but hopefully they'll show us what happened when he told them that because his big mouth, he got them into a tag team title match with AJ Styles and Dragon Lee.

Kiara (1:44:23)
Oops. So. And then lastly, of course, both E.O., Asuka, Kari, continues on. Kari, sorry, continues on with this chaos that is Asuka's feelings getting Kari into the most insane matches she never asked for. And then Kari having the audacity to hit Ria with a kendo stick. Girl.

You didn't learn how to win, just, you know, you ever had those friends who put you in a situation and you just wanted to back out?

Tanesha (1:44:52)
Nah,

I mean, you know what? I probably did, but not as a teenager. The one last person who was my friend who had that, yeah, that was one of those like, you about to get me in trouble. Even 20 years later, they reached out to me on Facebook, I was like, I don't know you, sorry.

Kiara (1:45:05)
Did you have to let the, right, You know what I'm You had to have that moment.

That's right. That's right. Because sometimes it's about self-preservation. And it's about time for Kari to get that. Also, if Asuka slap her one more time... It was just all slaps this week, you know what saying? Like, Kari getting slapped by Asuka? Bayley getting slapped by Lyra?

Tanesha (1:45:17)
Mm-hmm.

I mean, granted,

that was funny. She was like, snap into it. need you to, I need you to, I need you to switch gears, switch gears, let's go. Just don't switch gears on me. Just switch gears on me.

Kiara (1:45:40)
a lot. There was just a slapping. It too much to speak. But Kari, I believe in you, girl. At some point, you gonna have to fight back. This is not cool. She can't keep hitting you like this. Though that art on Asuka was... Shelf's Kiss. That was great. I was like, ooh, look at that. It looks like a centipede or something. So, alright, that's our wrap up of Ra. Is there anything else you want to talk about that happened at Ra?

Tanesha (1:45:57)
Mm-hmm.

Well, I do want to, guess, touch on how Raquel and Roxanne came out on Stephanie's moment, talking to her in Spanish, and then pretty much was like, like, I'm coming. And it was just like, are you really? But.

Kiara (1:46:15)
enjoyable.

See, I think Roxanne

is really, here's the thing I also love about Roxanne. If we had to go to a new feud for Stephanie, which yes we did, I do not hate it being Roxanne. Because Roxanne is very, very good. And even though she's in a tag team with Raquel right now, she was a single star all before that. So for me, do I love the idea of her and Stephanie? Yes. Do I love the idea that Raquel?

Tanesha (1:46:42)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (1:46:52)
and Stephanie hablando en español? Yes. Very much so. I was like, yes, you too. Because it also gave Stephanie that sense of comfort, right? Like, I could talk junk to you all day in Spanish, like nothing. But in English, she struggles a little bit, but it was nice to see her getting better and to also be able to weave in that cultural aspect that we talked about before. I'm excited about them, though. I was like, Stephanie and...

Tanesha (1:47:01)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Kiara (1:47:18)
I don't think that's the first time we're seeing that match at all, but...

Tanesha (1:47:20)
No, I'm gonna say did

Stephanie win the title off of Roxanne?

Kiara (1:47:24)
Yes.

Yes, she did. So like I said, I don't think it's the first, I mean on the May roster maybe in like a title match, but like not, no. And I like that match if I recall. So I'm in it. Give that to me. I like that next few they're setting up. I hope they set up some good stuff for Tiffany on SmackDown, even though I have a feeling we're just gonna continue with this Julia Jade thing, Kiana situation.

And with that, I hope you enjoyed our very long episode today as we unpacked TNA, WWE's, Crown Jewel, and the chaos that was Raw and SmackDown because there was a lot to cover. And we did not cover NXT in its fullest because we're going to do that tomorrow, right, Tanesha

Tanesha (1:48:14)
Yes, tomorrow on our midnight confessions, which is not at midnight, it's at 9 p.m. I can't wait to see you there.

Kiara (1:48:19)
That's right, Eastern,

9 p.m. Eastern. That's right. Somewhere around 9.05 or so, depending on how things roll with technology. But you can find us. We're gonna be streaming live on X on Facebook and on...

YouTube as well. And so that's exciting. And hopefully I'll figure out TikTok before tomorrow again and get that rolling. But I have to do it exactly on time. Y'all see how, y'all see what I'm saying. You'll know. I'll put an update on our social media. So be prepared for that tomorrow. And also, what else do we want to remind you?

We are launching our merch store.

Tanesha (1:48:56)
I'm

about to the merch store, of course.

Kiara (1:48:58)
We're launching our merch store. can get Main Event Mama's merch on our website. We have a link to the store. But also, stay tuned to our socials because we are going to give you a sneak peek of the merchandise you can pick up. We have some signature hoodies. We're entering the sister chat hoodie. We have some hats. We have some notebooks. We got mice. Mats. So if you're like me and you need to be using a mat.

Tanesha (1:49:28)
I don't think no one's going to buy mice or a mouse from us. I don't understand what that...

Kiara (1:49:28)
⁓ Exactly. No,

it's not actual mouse, my love. It's a... mouse pad. That too.

Tanesha (1:49:38)
There we go. Yeah.

Uh-huh.

Kiara (1:49:42)
And with that, we want to remind you that you can follow us. Where can they follow us, Nisha? I don't even know why I'm talking. Go ahead.

Tanesha (1:49:49)
Well, you can follow us

on YouTube, of course, on Instagram, on TikTok, on Facebook, on Twitter, and you can listen to us on Spotify as well as see us. iHeartRadio, Apple Music, nope, Apple Podcasts, whoa, well, geez. Amazon Audible, Amazon Music,

Kiara (1:50:07)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (1:50:15)
Pocket podcasts, also YouTube music.

Kiara (1:50:16)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (1:50:18)
And you can respectfully follow us each individually on our respective platforms. So you can follow me, Tanisha, on Instagram at Tanisha underscore mama pod. You can follow me on TikTok, Tanisha underscore mama pod. You can follow Kiara at Kiara mama pod on Instagram, as well as Facebook. You can also follow her on Twitter at content fixing. She's looking very chocolatey dropping today.

⁓ And I think I got us. Actually, you know what? You could also still follow us on YouTube too. we forgetting that we got our YouTube channels each individually. So I'm Tanisha.

Kiara (1:50:53)
You got them all.

ain't nothing on my YouTube channel. I wouldn't do it. would... Yes. Yeah. Make sure you check out our playlist. So if you are on our YouTube channel, we have a bunch of curated playlists for you. You can check out our funny mix, our relationship mix, our parenting mix, and just our live streams. If you just want to know, you only want to see what we did live, click on that and that's there for you too. So we already have curated that just for your viewing pleasure.

Tanesha (1:51:04)
It's on ours, but you can still rank us up. You know what saying?

Kiara (1:51:30)
These are all shorts except for the live streams and of course our podcasts, which is how we ended up on YouTube Music, right? But she forgot to mention our website where you can leave us a voicemail, keep it respectful. You know how she is. You can also register to be a guest. We have all these people who are like, hey, I want to be a guest. Register and we'll contact you and we'll find some time for you to get on our platform. And then also we want to offer you the opportunity to check out our blogs.

Tanesha (1:51:39)
I

Kiara (1:51:58)
because Sis Be Writing about thoughts and feelings. We got all sorts of blogs out there. ⁓ And we have some new hubs, our parenting hubs. So if you're like, hey, I just found y'all, but I only want your parenting stuff, well, you know, there's a way to do that too. And if you only want our wrestling stuff, there's a way to do that too. You just got to check out the website. So it's an amazing opportunity for you guys to just tap in to all the things Made Event Mamas.

Tanesha (1:52:24)
And just so you, if you haven't already figured out and you're new here, our website is www.maineventmamas.com.

Kiara (1:52:31)
podcast.com

Tanesha (1:52:32)
Thank you. I was like, I was having a moment.

thought it was nevermind, don't matter. ⁓ What else?

sure, wait. Wait. I need y'all to not just like, but comment. Leave a note. Give us encouragement or discouragement if that's what you feel that day. I don't know what to tell you, but understand if you leave discouragement, we may or may not respond. And if I respond, you may or may not like the answer. Anyway, second, also share. Don't.

Kiara (1:52:44)
That's right.

I see.

Tanesha (1:53:02)
Just share it. Just share it to people who you think will think it's However, support.

Kiara (1:53:08)
They might have a

sister like one of us and you want to remind them that they are just like the person you just saw?

Tanesha (1:53:13)
You know, or you know, just light us up. Light us up on Instagram, light us up on TikTok. Our TikTok friends are great. But view, view, view, view and like, subscribe, give us ratings of five, because anything less than that is unacceptable. And now, we're not new to this.

Kiara (1:53:28)
That's right.

We're true to this.

Tanesha (1:53:33)
And this was Main Event Mamas. Woo!

Kiara (1:53:38)
Every time.