BEAUTY IN BLACK SEASON 2 RECAP: The SUV, The Takeover & The Tag Team You Didn’t See Coming!

Kiara (00:01.009)
Hi, I'm Kiara.

Tanesha (00:04.396)
Tanisha and you're now entering the sister chat. Welcome to me in a bit mamas. It's real.

Kiara (00:13.757)
Well, we definitely have a special episode for you today because my sister, Blackmail, I mean, she encouraged me to watch this beauty and the Black situation that you see on our screen. And it's been a wild ride. So we thought, why not bring you guys in on our own experiences?

Tanesha (00:20.701)
I didn't. No, don't do that.

Kiara (00:34.675)
anything about my Tanesha I'm excited to talk about your show.

Tanesha (00:36.952)
I mean, I definitely, I am, because I've definitely been trying to get you to watch it for over a year.

Kiara (00:43.913)
Yep, yep, she not wrong. Over a year. I didn't want to do it, but I did it. But to be fair, I have a reason. So before we get started, let me tell you, I have a little bit a Tyler Perry situation. I want to be clear about why this happened.

Tanesha (00:57.379)
Mm.

Kiara (01:01.245)
He did this to me. So Tyler Perry, I started watching If Loving You was Wrong back in the day. And then I got all the way to season whatever it was.

Tanesha (01:08.866)
Mm.

Kiara (01:15.409)
And we were still in the same conundrum we had been in for two, three seasons. And so I swore off all Tyler Perry shows. Shows, not movies. After that. Because I was devastated that my soap opera just ended up in nowhere. You had all these great soap opera actors. You know how much I love soap operas. Okay? And then it just fumbled. just, brrrr

Tanesha (01:20.45)
Mm.

Tanesha (01:35.362)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (01:44.743)
I had sworn off Tyler Perry TV shows until my sister made me watch them.

Tanesha (01:44.846)
Mm.

Tanesha (01:51.468)
I mean, I will tell you, I understand that because I felt like for Sisters, he was doing the same thing and was like, what are y'all doing? And then started a spin-off show at the same time. And it was like, but why? Nothing is adding up or matching to it. Don't make no sense. But, but I think he's found his niche with Amazon and Netflix because now he has free reign for real, for real. To do as he please.

Kiara (02:02.345)
you

That's that right there is my point.

Kiara (02:17.925)
Yes. And Beauty and the Black is literally an explanation of that. mean...

Kiara (02:28.005)
It literally is.

Tanesha (02:28.236)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (02:32.393)
I don't even know. Typically I would know what to say here, but I'm not gonna hold you. It was an experience that I wasn't prepared for and I love me at Soap Opera, as I said. But we're going to recap season two. That's what this is all about, is recapping season two. Because if you thought the first season was crazy, the second season said to hold its beer. And the things you thought were not possible happened. I'm talking corporate takeovers. I'm talking

Tanesha (03:01.005)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (03:02.989)
SUV revenge and a tag team up that my sister warned me I would think was impossible, but it happened. So we want you to grab your coffee or something stronger because everybody there drinking whiskey. It's bourbon. I mean, cause we about to recap the situation right now.

Tanesha (03:05.495)
Mm. Mm.

Tanesha (03:10.177)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (03:24.141)
You

Kiara (03:25.577)
So before we get started, let's do our season one recap, you ready? Because it's been a long time for you. So let me give you the quick and dirty of season one, which is. So we started with the struggle. We started with Kimmy, a girl trying to survive the club scene. And then we find her kidnapped sister, who happened to be under the thumb of Jules and Bodi, living a nightmare.

Tanesha (03:29.099)
I'm ready.

It has.

Kiara (03:56.531)
Then we have Mallory.

Tanesha (03:56.535)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (04:01.613)
Cough

Kiara (04:03.421)
the queen of the Bellarie hair empire. And from the outside, she is utter perfection. She is beautiful person portrayed right here on my side. And it's amazing. She's really incredibly beautiful, but also incredibly messed up. And her husband Roy is maybe part of the reason.

He cheats. He has a serious habit.

Tanesha (04:38.613)
we don't want to say the words. Okay, got it.

Kiara (04:41.127)
And then there's a hit and run. Now we gonna say it. And then there's a hit and run situation mystery. That was how I stopped watching in first place in the first season. And then these worlds collide, right?

Kimmy tried to rob Mr. Bellarie, Mr. Elder Bellarie with Angel. But instead of sending her to jail, he saw a little spark in her. He was like, wait a minute. He also hates his sons and everything they stand for, both of them.

Tanesha (05:20.705)
while still living a secret life.

Kiara (05:22.981)
while living the kind of life that he hates his other son for living.

It's delicious drama and then He decides that Kimmy's about to be his girl in name only Okay, and so the season ended with a serious turn When the Bellarie family was convinced Horace was about to pass away So they could cash in on his money cuz they been that's the whole thing. They've been talking about this entire time I can't wait till he dies. I get this money his daddy money. Not even his money

but like all of it Empire and then he pulled a fast one he married Kimmy from his hospital bed and suddenly the girl from the streets is a majority owner of Bellarie's billion dollar Empire. Alright yeah I missed a lot of stuff in that recap but I felt like that was the gist so you want to fill in some of this other stuff because there's a lot that

Tanesha (06:16.353)
You did, you did, you did, cause we didn't talk about... Yeah, yeah. So you know, Jules and the other brother are working together in cahoots with a judge. Well, that's the brother, the brother to the, Bellarie. Horace, mm-hmm. I forgot his name [Norman], But yes, right? They working together, and that's how Kimmy and everyone else got into this,

Kiara (06:28.403)
Well, that's the uncle.

Kiara (06:33.555)
to hair, course.

Tanesha (06:46.093)
of working in the club. And it's not a regular club.

Kiara (06:50.867)
That's a strip club

Tanesha (06:53.569)
But is more than that?

Kiara (06:55.025)
I was gonna say, I would say strip clubs slash brothel is what I thought it was. Felt like that might be it.

Tanesha (07:00.877)
I mean technically yeah, I think so. It was a unisex

Kiara (07:08.21)
Listen.

It seemed to be quite profitable, if you ask me, even beyond the fraudulent laundering practices that were happening there. It seemed to be quite profitable for both equal opportunities.

Tanesha (07:22.274)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Then we have Horace's ex-wife, his children's mother, who planned to rob him and failed. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And failed terribly. like, they didn't get enough. And she was like, what is this? It was just like crazy, you know?

Kiara (07:36.807)
Olivia,

Tanesha (07:50.005)
And then two, Mallory is not all peaches and queens in this first season. She had a lot of...

Kiara (07:55.324)
No, they allude to quite a few of her past crimes getting rid of people. So I'm like, oof, I mean, you name it, this show has it. That's basically it. So if you missed season one, I think that's the best we could do because this ain't for you. You need to go back and watch season one so that we can get into season two because it...

Tanesha (08:12.053)
Yeah.

Kiara (08:17.961)
A lot happened in all those episodes and you meet a lot of different characters. I just want to preface a few that we haven't even gotten into. We have Varney, who's the attorney and also Charles, the son's.

Tanesha (08:26.783)
Leisha.

Kiara (08:36.061)
Booty buddy, guess. don't, I guess that's what that was. And then you have other characters. She mentioned Jules, but then Norman is Horace's brother.

Tanesha (08:47.853)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kiara (08:49.993)
Yeah, like I said, there's a lot happening. We get to meet a lot of people in the midst of all this. So I think you got the bit down. Oh, and then we forgot Rain, who is a pivotal part of this story because season one was a BBL going wrong, all the way wrong. So if y'all out there getting illegal ones, please don't do that.

Tanesha (08:59.533)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (09:03.052)
yeah, who, who is?

Kiara (09:15.889)
please find a medical professional because it really brought to light what could happen to you because homegirl almost died at this point.

Tanesha (09:23.437)
and then her booty looks weird. They couldn't fix that.

Kiara (09:25.937)
Yep, so she's spanx-ing it up because it's not proper. Yeah, so.

Tanesha (09:33.421)
Kiara (09:34.781)
Basically. All right. Woof.

Tanesha (09:39.853)
Okay.

Kiara (09:40.155)
Let's pause for a second. I'm gonna mark this clip real quick so I can delete the stuff in the background. I was like, I moved all that in the background.

Tanesha (09:50.701)
Okay, I'm gonna stand up for a second, because one of you said, fuck you.

Kiara (09:58.849)
Why can't see it? But I don't see it now. Oh, here it is.

Kiara (10:06.473)
Let me actually get hungry now. That's great.

that not making.

Kiara (10:18.377)
Yeah, we definitely short today.

Alright, ready? We can keep going. Just gotta find the actual script. Where is the script?

Kiara (10:38.725)
not the crabs. Okay, Jesus. Alright.

Tanesha (11:14.647)
Bro, I'm not talking to you.

Kiara (11:38.663)
Okay, hold on. I realized something. I need to redo this real quick. It's how we gonna talk about season two unless we go on order.

Kiara (12:06.569)
you.

Kiara (12:15.601)
Okay, alright, this is better. Alright, here we go. It's crazy as hell, but this is better. Alright, let's do it. Don't do that. You ready? I'll meet you back over here.

Tanesha (12:31.917)
I gotta get back on the chair. Yes, I'm coming.

Tanesha (12:54.999)
Okay, let's go.

Kiara (12:58.505)
Alright, so at the top of season two, when we start, it's right where we left off season one, okay? Where we still in the hospital with Kimmy, Horace, Rain, her sister, Sylvie.

Basically the entire Bellarie family who are currently sitting outside the door and then Horace is somewhere in the middle going in it back and forth if you will Taking orders and sharing information. He is the worst For Varney, I'm sorry. What did I say? Sorry Horace is in the hospital. My apologies. So Horace is still in the hospital looking like he about to keel over any And Varney is the attorney who is going back

Tanesha (13:26.218)
Me, Verni.

Tanesha (13:31.199)
Horace Horace is in the hospital bed.

Kiara (13:42.908)
And again, as I said, worst attorney in history ever. He don't have no idea of this client respecting, know, yeah, what in the world? Why are you going to tell everybody everything? I never, but anyway, so here's where the real shift began, right? So then Mrs. Bellarie is crowned and we've watched Kimmy in season one.

Tanesha (13:44.705)
double

Kiara (14:13.361)
Try to survive, get caught up in Jules' nonsense because they were trying to survive with Rain, courtesy of Angel's nonsense. You do get a full picture of what happens later on in the season when Angel and Rain and Kimmy kind of have a conversation that kind of pieces things together, which is essentially that they were drug mules and they got caught. And Jules used his connections to enslave them using the judge at Tanisha Just

Tanesha (14:40.973)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (14:42.771)
But anyway, so not only does Kimmy elevate herself, now she becomes Mrs. Bellarie. And she immediately lets them know what's up.

Tanesha (14:54.157)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (14:55.081)
She came back down in the hospital. She didn't shy away from the craziness that was coming her way.

and she got the keys to the kingdom. So what's your initial thought as you got into this like season two of like what the the what is happening?

Tanesha (15:13.835)
While I was like, yes, stick it to them motherfuckers. Sorry, stick it to them. Because when you have watched season one and seeing everything that has happened and transpired, especially with Kimmy, and you can tell if she never got caught in this type of lifestyle, she wouldn't be there. Like she, right. And they pushed her to the edge when they decided to kidnap her sister.

Kiara (15:35.271)
No, and she's smart.

Tanesha (15:43.871)
And then two will you.

Tanesha (15:48.172)
Like even like, know, like to have her mom, like to have her mom sell her sister was like, wow. So they like to see her go from that to like now she is the top just to spite y'all. Cause at first she was like, I don't know. But then she was like, you know what? I trust you. Kinda. Maybe.

Kiara (15:50.301)
past the edge, think she just jumped off a cliff and then.

Kiara (16:11.175)
It took her too long. I was like, listen, maybe it's, feel like maybe it's because I, his reasoning made sense. Like, hey, I need you to do this because I just hate everybody and I just want to blow it up. And so I need you to be my wife so you can do that. And essentially my agent of chaos, right? So I need you to continue doing crazy things and making everyone else angry.

Tanesha (16:37.623)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (16:37.865)
So I guess maybe I would signed up from the jump because first of all you didn't really have nothing. What was you leaving behind?

Tanesha (16:43.863)
Well, I think too, was kind of, I think it was too for her to, it's kind of hard to trust who you can trust because technically, what do you mean you didn't know this was happening? It's in y'all name. And for him to actually like, no, I really didn't know this was happening. But now I have loopholes to get these people out of this so that I have all the money.

Kiara (16:50.238)
Master.

Kiara (17:05.491)
So did Horace's reaction to everything he learned surprise you in season one?

Tanesha (17:11.433)
It did, because I thought he knew. But then again, maybe not. Actually, that's what saying. He seemed to know everything. But I also think, too, when he remember he would secretly go to the club and no one knew it was him. So. Which lets me believe that they didn't know he knew either. Because I feel like Jules knew everybody was in that club. So. So the fact.

Kiara (17:14.429)
You didn't? You seem to know everything.

Kiara (17:25.821)
Which was also weird.

Kiara (17:37.414)
Mm-hmm. Jules was a person making all the connections with Roy and his many women and whoever else needed something at that time. I mean, you could just order it up with Roy. I mean, with Jules, which is what Roy did. It was like a drive-through for him. That was insanity. But I could understand why you would understand the way that she was kind of cautious. But I was more like Reign.

Tanesha (17:49.057)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (18:08.025)
Girl, sign the document.

Tanesha (18:10.573)
Like he saved my life, homie. He ain't have to do that. He ain't know me from African faith.

Kiara (18:15.145)
Yeah, that was the other thing. Because my thing is he proved himself, right? He saved her friend even when she was being crazy. He didn't have her friend thrown off nowhere. And I understand her sense of fear and betrayal. But I also think I'm just a type of person who's practical. So I'm like, I know what I need to do, just like they did. As soon as they was like, oh, what we do is we save money. Yes, girl, we stashed them. So if we got to go, we got to go. That made perfect sense to me.

And what I thought was really good is that Rain, in spite of her crazy, was just equally smart in that sense of like, we need to make sure we got a way out then. And she did support her friend the whole time, which I thought was pretty amazing, because I might argue with her. Because every time Kimmy went on a tantrum, she went on tantrum and couldn't nobody do nothing. At all. So. And then,

Tanesha (19:08.823)
Yeah.

Kiara (19:12.123)
Especially interesting is that she gets like her marching instructions just in time for Horace to head to Italy.

Like, now you're have to come into this new world. You go shopping. Her hair stayed pretty much the same. I was like, girl, listen, maybe she should have did a full makeover, in my opinion. But you, Sylvie, knew this, knew that. She looked amazing. But now she's stuck in the middle of this family war and she has to play the sides to her advantage.

Tanesha (19:43.884)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (19:52.99)
How do we feel about her transition? Was she like a natural boss you feel like? Or was she just playing a dangerous game between like Roy and Harold and Jules and all the things.

Tanesha (19:58.85)
Yes. No.

Tanesha (20:05.421)
I feel like that

She's that person. Like she-

But I also feel like because she has to, but I think she played that well. She knew she needed to do it. That, what's the funny part about it is that she actually looked up to Mallory.

Kiara (20:26.441)
And you remember that from season one where she went to the seminar.

Tanesha (20:29.197)
And she was just like, my goodness, so I think you know She had to do what she had to do and I do think some of it was driven by the hatred she had for Roy for Jules I Don't think she really cared about Charles remember Charles was like Charles was like well, I like her

Kiara (20:53.139)
She didn't.

Kiara (20:56.977)
up until she started aiming at his way.

Tanesha (20:59.911)
Yeah, but I think he still wasn't like mad mad. Like he wasn't like, because even if you look at the end, he still wasn't like, I'm mad that she did this to us. Like he was just like, it's what it is, I guess. She played the hand.

Kiara (21:15.209)
But he's also... He never seems to take anything seriously. I was like, has he ever experienced the consequence of his actions? Because it felt like he clearly did not. Also, neither did Roy. But they just clearly like Olivia. Despite Olivia's crazy, her coming into the house while he get it on with his various people, like that is... Listen, a reminder why you need to have...

to get into.

Don't just let people in. Don't let them have the key. What shocked me though is I didn't realize they all lived along that road until we're about to talk about what just happened. I had no clue they lived all along that road.

Tanesha (21:57.676)
Really? They said it in the first season that they all, like, this is their whole thing. That's why it was like such a big thing when Norman's wife got hit. Cause he's like, who's coming up and down this road? But y'all, no one else is coming up down this road. Yeah.

Kiara (22:07.145)
Yeah.

Yeah, okay, we can talk about that. So I do want to take a moment. That was part of season one again That was I should have added that to the recap because it further fuels why Norman is like F y'all y'all killed my wife and I loved her so much even though Olivia had a really interesting line in there About how how could you love her? She means speak English. I almost fell out of my chair He's like she was like, I I don't even miss her. I'm glad she's dead like for real

Tanesha (22:38.231)
But we gotta remember, if you didn't see season one, Norman and Olivia had a thing. Hints which made her and Horace break up.

Kiara (22:43.763)
the youth, yep.

Kiara (22:49.657)
And Horace didn't know about it either. That was another thing Horace had no idea about. Which I was like... And that is a part of why he was really angry at those two. But you get, I mean, I feel like you get a full picture in season two of why he kind of hates everybody. And like I told you, like, I get it. I get it. Not that I think he's great, but I mean, he's like the devil and everybody else is there. You know what mean? So it's like...

Tanesha (23:10.028)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (23:17.479)
The devil you know, I guess.

Tanesha (23:18.849)
But I guess, but I also guess in a different capacity. Unless they're gonna reveal it in season three that he is the one who's been behind all of it.

Kiara (23:27.761)
Listen, I have my suspicions. It's not a soap opera unless you got something that you just came out of nowhere. That he's Jules father's cousin's friend, whoever, his step daddy, his real daddy. Like he's actually Kimmy's father. Like, listen, who knows? It's not a soap opera unless you add some crazy layers. Because I'm like, how else are gonna get Kimmy out of the way? Let us find out that that's your real father.

Tanesha (23:45.165)
Ooh, ooh, that would be crazy.

Kiara (23:59.038)
Just saying, totally possible. Welcome to soap opera craziness. I will say that is one of my favorite things about Tyler Perry is that he brings the telenovela crazy into regular TV, whereas daytime soap operas are limited in what they can show. And he was able to take it far in Netflix. We went pretty far. We saw a lot of stuff that I was like, ooh, made sure my door was closed.

who won't walk up in this room and see all the things that I saw and heard there, in fact.

Tanesha (24:37.089)
We need a clip it here

Tanesha (24:46.635)
Between him like, you're so dramatic. This is the movie, shut up. And you're like, yeah, yeah, he's right. You live with me. You know how dramatic I am. But my knees can't handle it, okay? My knees are like, bitch, you might as well stand up. Because I was just appeasing him. Now he gone. I was just like, fine. I'm like, I know how my knees hurt.

Kiara (24:58.505)
gonna say that so I don't know why she

Tanesha (25:09.101)
That's why I need the pillow. And he was like, you're just so dramatic. And then I was thinking like, this is awkward. This is how I feel when I'm trying to get on top of like my knees.

Kiara (25:21.481)
Anyhow, thanks for that. Moving on.

Tanesha (25:23.361)
Ow, moving on, okay, sorry, all right.

Kiara (25:28.137)
Alright, we'll mark that clip again. Alright, let's go back to... Let's talk about segment two, which is... Let's talk about the fall of the house of Roy, because that was another key point in season two. Like... Roy's house imploded like dominoes. Or like a card house, where you... And it just goes everywhere. Like, it was insanity. But, he kind of brought it on himself. He brought all of it on himself.

Tanesha (25:44.321)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (25:52.088)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (25:55.458)
You know what? Because I'm going to Roy is very arrogant. And to be fair, I don't think he's even Horace's son.

Kiara (26:01.8)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (26:07.209)
You know, I was like, is he Norman, son?

Tanesha (26:10.423)
That's what I think, you know what I'm saying? Because the way Horace despised his sons, he really despised Roy. He only despised Charles because he's Even though he is secretly gay.

Kiara (26:26.565)
even though he is in the closet.

Tanesha (26:31.979)
So it's like, you hate him because you hate yourself in turn, because you... But you know what saying? But remember when Charles died, well, when they thought he died.

Kiara (26:36.733)
Yes, absolutely.

Kiara (26:43.817)
We, okay, yeah, that was one of the moments of the season that I was like, oh my God, is he dead? Like I almost texted you to be like, did I ask you? I had to find out.

Tanesha (26:52.213)
Yes, you called me. You was like, what is this? How did he come back alive? I said, cause he didn't die. But to have them, but to have them all right. But it was also, no, Bernie walked into his house.

Kiara (26:58.621)
That was the funniest moment when he walks into Varney's house.

Kiara (27:06.994)
is that where he was?

Tanesha (27:08.213)
Yes, so Verney, because Verney had the keys to get into Charles' house. Remember, Verney, because, right, remember, Verney was the one who was in love with Charles. Charles was kind of in love, but not really. He just wanted to be free.

Kiara (27:10.889)
that's right. And so he just walked from his bedroom into the room.

Kiara (27:19.005)
Yeah, varmint, poor thing. Charles!

Charles loves anybody but Charles. I don't think he has the capacity to love because I don't think he feels accepted enough by anyone to love. every honestly if you look at his attachments with his family like even when he needed help they all like left him to his devices. Whereas they would call him and eventually he show up with but the other way around he was just left to his complete devices with his mama betraying him like his car getting ripped off.

Tanesha (27:27.167)
No.

Tanesha (27:37.346)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (27:54.058)
That was crazy to find out that was a dude from the club who got blown up. And that Norman was so excited about it. Like, this family is crazy.

Tanesha (28:03.169)
He was like, ooh, he was like, ooh, and I'm just going, cause you think it was him, but it wasn't him. but did he even apologize? I think he was like, it really wasn't y'all. But,

Kiara (28:09.256)
Right?

Kiara (28:15.133)
No?

Kiara (28:18.697)
He tried to say something that sounded like an apology and Charles was like, shut up.

Tanesha (28:22.507)
Yes. He was like, don't even, like, it's too late now, because you tried to kill me. You tried to kill me.

Kiara (28:27.785)
And he was happy about it and he was mad that I was still alive and then when he finds out the truth, it's like hmm. I told you I ain't do it But everyone kind of was like, oh well Anyway back to Rory and the the cards that just went everywhere Can we take a moment to talk about the way Mallory destroyed their home?

Tanesha (28:33.377)
but.

Tanesha (28:47.019)
Roy. But Roy. Yeah, but Roy.

Kiara (28:54.033)
or just their bedrooms, excuse me, not their entire house, because he had the audacity.

Tanesha (28:56.235)
Okay, well let's talk about, let's, I'm gonna say let's talk about why she crashed out and this is where.

Kiara (29:01.927)
I was gonna say, she crashed out for good reason because of him and Felicia.

Go ahead, you give me the backstory. What happened there?

Tanesha (29:09.869)
that dumb bitch, I'm just sorry. She's just a dumb bitch. Like it's just like, you know, when you look at a hoe and you'd be like, but I'm their favorite hoe. And you just like, but you a hoe and you have no loyalty to no one. And you're like, but you know.

That was some good shit. You're just like, what? So like the whole reason why Mallory even started talking to Felicia is because she was trying to get so much dirt on Kimmy because she was mad. This is where we also know that Mallory technically has feelings for Roy.

Because I'ma tell you right now, if you had no feelings for Roy, you ain't going to crash out as bad as you crashed out. Like the first season we made it seem like, okay, she doesn't really like, she does dirt, he does dirt. Yeah, period. Especially when they thought Charles was dead. Y'all, that was, that was crazy.

Kiara (29:46.761)
Of course.

Kiara (29:58.408)
She says the meanest stuff to him, period.

Kiara (30:07.993)
I it was you. like, woof, ouch.

Tanesha (30:11.959)
But we have to pretend right now that everything is great and we're a happy little family. I was like, yeah. But second season, you realize you were just playing hard. So he didn't know you cared because the crash out that you gave, you could not tell me that she did not care love or something for that man. Because the reason why she crashed out and why she was upset with Kimmy is because Kimmy was fucking her husband.

Kiara (30:41.009)
Yes, but Kimmy was doing that.

Tanesha (30:41.407)
unbeknownst to her, Kimmy, because she was being forced to do it. She did not enjoy it. She did not like it. Like in effect, because he was treating hoes like hoes.

Kiara (30:48.883)
He treated her like trash.

Kiara (30:56.029)
That doesn't make it right.

Tanesha (30:56.865)
Sorry, it doesn't make it right, but.

You know, I have my own point of view about that.

Kiara (31:07.273)
I'm just saying I don't make it right.

Tanesha (31:08.991)
It doesn't make it right, but at the same time, if you choose a life to be a hoe.

Kiara (31:15.069)
Did they choose a life to be a hoe?

Tanesha (31:17.141)
She didn't. Felicia did. Because Felicia liked it. She is too loose and goose to be a hoe. She could care.

Kiara (31:25.543)
Maybe, maybe she found herself because it looked like everyone he put through that little system of his became part of his little operation one way or another. Maybe she just decided like, F it, I'm here anyway, I might as well enjoy it. Like we don't know Felicia's backstory except that she seems real sadiddy and maybe that's her coping mechanism, right? So I'm just saying, we don't know. But what we do know is she made some poor choices. That's all we do know.

Tanesha (31:42.487)
That's true. That's true.

Tanesha (31:53.868)
She did because her, I guess maybe too, maybe what she was like one of body's like little pawns, like underneath body. So it was like, yeah, I hate Kimmy because Kimmy blah, blah, blah, blah. So Mallory was like, I want all this dirt. me all this dirt. I'll pay you. And then it became to the point where Felicia wasn't giving enough dirt. That made sense. Cause then she was like, yeah, you got that good stuff too. you don't give me money. like, especially when she was running it down, it was like, girl.

Kiara (32:16.041)
No.

Tanesha (32:24.001)
Do you that's not dirt, right? Like you not even saying nothing worse. You need to get this money.

Kiara (32:28.263)
Yeah, that was funny when she took that money back.

Tanesha (32:32.205)
When she took that, she was like, this is not even worth it. then she was then, but then she gave it back because now we're now learning about the driver, the other and her assistant from season one, where they came from and realized that they were actually a part of Jules little operation. And they got string along into it, just like the cops. All the cops got strung up into it too. But one of them seems more.

Kiara (32:36.361)
See you again, bye.

Kiara (32:46.951)
Yes.

Kiara (32:59.335)
They did. I was like Officer Alex and Officer Traxton.

Tanesha (33:05.207)
But Officer Traction seems like he likes being in there though.

Kiara (33:09.609)
think he cares. See, I think we're giving people, these characters, the benefit of doubt of saying, you know, maybe, like, they enjoy it or whatever. But at the same time, I'm like, I think he's also similar to Felicia, even when they had that scene together, where he was in bed with her, and she was like, I gotta go get my other one. And he's like, I, like, I think they have just come to,

Tanesha (33:15.723)
No doubt.

Tanesha (33:29.644)
Mmm.

Kiara (33:39.567)
accept life instead of trying to drive right.

Tanesha (33:42.005)
that's right. I forgot that. I forgot Traxon was with Felicia and that was her man. I forgot that.

Kiara (33:48.733)
I mean, I don't know if it was her man, but it was definitely her ongoing situationship.

Tanesha (33:54.862)
No, because I remember him saying something. She's like, I just have to go. You're like, you know, like I gotta go because you know what? I forgot. I forgot that was like in the whatever part that was. I don't know if that was in beginning of season two, if that was at the end of season one. Like, yeah, like I was like, I forgot that part. So then yes, you're right. You know, maybe there is a backstory to it and we don't know, but we do know that maybe, but we do know she did take a liking to Roy.

Kiara (34:06.953)
It wasn't season two, yeah, it wasn't season one. It's definitely season two.

Tanesha (34:24.525)
And Roy definitely took a liking to her. Apparently he must have found his stride because he sure was having, yeah, he sure was having problems with Kimmy. He couldn't keep it up and he couldn't keep it going.

Kiara (34:29.981)
I mean, he was a bit impotent.

Kiara (34:36.583)
But it wasn't just Kimmy. So if you remember Mallory, that's what she kept saying to him. Like, you can't even not me, not anybody else. You can't do nothing. But he also has a habit that obviously plays a role in likely his inability to perform, I feel. So.

Tanesha (34:44.725)
Yeah. Yeah.

Tanesha (34:53.089)
But somehow, wait, wait, hold on, we gotta talk about that scene where he decided to try to sniff coke on the girl's leg and she was like, yo, what is wrong with you? Get off of me.

Kiara (35:03.337)
Roy is every bit of a mess. He is so unredeemable as a character. If you look at like, if you even start with season two, I'm not even gonna go back to season one. Let's just focus on season two. In season two, he tries to hit on the attorney that he used to go to school with.

Tanesha (35:10.399)
Not unredeemable.

Tanesha (35:24.087)
That was season one.

Kiara (35:25.617)
Nope, that was still happening in season two. Was it? Jesus, I don't know. Okay, my bad, my bad. I was like, so she just came back in season two when, I could have swore they had them, anyway, it doesn't matter. Either way, so regardless, you see him with various females.

Tanesha (35:27.308)
Yes.

Tanesha (35:31.391)
No, that was season one.

Tanesha (35:41.677)
Listen, these seasons are 18 episodes long, so who knows? These technically are like four seasons and in two.

Kiara (35:48.412)
It really feels like I went through a lot in this, which I appreciate, but I also watched both seasons in like five days or four days or less than that probably because I just kept going there. But when you look at Roy, he has no sense of care for anybody, not himself, not any female at all. And he's not able to perform, which is why he's

Tanesha (36:07.639)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (36:12.935)
constantly trying to find new girls who will allow him to perform. So he's looking for somebody submissive every time. And it just doesn't work up until Felicia, because Felicia, her attitude is very, okay daddy, like it's very much like, so he's in charge. And I think she's choosing to be with him in his head. So I think that's why his equipment is working. Whereas,

Tanesha (36:20.961)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (36:24.598)
Yeah.

Tanesha (36:40.47)
Yeah, because.

Kiara (36:42.395)
Nobody else is choosing him either. So I definitely think it speaks to like an even deeper issue with him is like, he doesn't feel appreciated or loved at home in either way. Like when you grow up like that in this trauma situation, then it makes perfect sense for you not to be able to form attachments, which I would say is everybody's problem here. No one can form attachments in this family because of the amount of trauma that they have put.

Tanesha (36:45.74)
Yeah.

Tanesha (37:04.801)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Kiara (37:12.125)
themselves through.

consciously and unconsciously. anyway, so Roy gets pushed out the window.

Tanesha (37:22.337)
That was season one by Kimmy. That was Larry's.

Kiara (37:25.405)
Yep, that was in season one by Kimmy. But he's still dealing with that injury as he goes into season two, which I thought was also kind of hilarious. Because I was like, he just got pushed out a window and like, it's a lingering injury, obviously. Like, you're not going to feel good the next day. They drag him out of bed to participate in the wedding. But then, how's he feeling good enough to be getting it on with Felicia?

Tanesha (37:50.763)
Well, all the drugs.

Kiara (37:55.72)
You don't. I mean, think about it.

Tanesha (37:57.486)
Because even she's doing drugs. They both doing drugs. She got him sniffing it off of her. She don't care. But...

Kiara (38:01.257)
I told you Felicia's just coping, she don't care. She don't care. And I don't even think she likes him, I think she likes the fact that she has power over him.

Tanesha (38:10.003)
Well, I don't know because when she was talking to Valerie, she was like, yeah, that's my daddy. And she's like, that's nice. Cause that's my husband. goes, I was like.

Kiara (38:19.443)
Yeah, that was funny. And then she said, then what she said, sometimes I talk too much. They say I should put something in my mouth. too much. And I was like, you right.

Tanesha (38:27.871)
And she was like, mm-hmm. But then she proceeds to go outside and see Roy. And she was like, uh-uh, that's mine. Back up. And I was like.

Kiara (38:39.731)
She said that's her whale. That's her ticket out of the situation she currently in. And he is, to be fair. So what leads to this ultimate big moment for him is that he decides that Felicia about to be his go-to. So he brings her, right? Cause she got him feeling real good.

Tanesha (38:56.683)
because she has got him, got him back. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, wait. We can't miss that part before you start saying how he got to the house because Mallory decided to snap. And I think at that point, that's when we go, you snapping. You snapping like somebody who actually has feelings for her man.

Kiara (39:03.826)
Okay.

Kiara (39:07.625)
you did.

Kiara (39:16.541)
Could it just be the principle of everything that went wrong?

Tanesha (39:19.017)
I thought it was two until she did the next thing. Then I was like, I don't think that was a lot.

Kiara (39:23.443)
yeah, the crying and stuff. Yeah.

Tanesha (39:31.426)
It may be for the principal, but she hasn't attacked Kimmy yet.

Kiara (39:36.081)
Well, she was gonna, but remember they kept, she couldn't get close enough to Kimmy to do that. And by the time she got close to Kimmy, the stakes had changed. So she didn't get an opportunity to do what she wanted to do to Kimmy.

Tanesha (39:37.483)
She wanted to. That's right. She couldn't get close to them.

Correct. But.

Tanesha (39:50.114)
But her beating Felicia up, then watching Roy grab her to get her off of her. And I was like, look at y'all having like a little like, look at the little moment that he looked at you like, you mad though, huh? I got you now. Well, I'm gonna grab her and you're gonna watch me do this. And I was like.

Kiara (40:10.448)
Yeah, that was wild.

Tanesha (40:12.087)
So... Really? That what we do?

Kiara (40:15.153)
Yeah, this is why I said he led himself there. So then he brings her to the house and I'm trying to tell you something.

Tanesha (40:21.197)
Not him even trying to suck her in the trunk. That was funny. She was like, can I get in the front seat? And he goes, all right, come on. I was like.

Kiara (40:28.681)
because he just has no sense of care of people. He was gonna literally transport her in the truck like she was a body. So it's like, I don't even care. I'm just using you for what I can get from you, which is the case, because now his thing's working. So woohoo for him, because it wasn't working for I don't know how long. And then he brings her, like I said, to the house, and that's when things really take a turn, because ooh, ooh, Mallory is sitting in the house watching the shenanigans and listening to the shenanigans.

And then he has the audacity to bring the girl to the bedroom and participate in activities. Now we all know, I don't know a woman alive who's gonna be like, oh, that's okay. You what I'm You just brought your mistress to my house in my bed and I'm good with this. Unless you have that agreement, because I'm sure there's people out there. But in this case, he should have knew he was about to be on staff. Because...

Tanesha (41:25.421)
I think he knew, he did it on purpose. He did it on purpose. Cause now he knows he got Ernie for a skin. Now he knows she cares. So now he's like, you care now, huh? Well now I'm gonna get you. because when he, when she didn't care, he wasn't doing that stuff. He was taking her home. He wasn't bringing her home. The fact that he's like, now you care, now you trying to fight over me? Well now I got you.

Kiara (41:42.941)
No.

Tanesha (41:52.312)
So this part, I get it. I mean, it was kind of wild. I was watching her and I was like, you didn't see her sitting there? I was like, wait, where, where did she come from? Where was she? I was trying to figure where she came from. Where was she sitting that he couldn't hear? Yeah.

Kiara (41:52.85)
YAY!

Kiara (41:59.859)
I was confused until she... It was confused.

Kiara (42:08.233)
Who? Mallory? She was already in the house.

Tanesha (42:13.215)
I know, but where was she sitting in the house?

Kiara (42:17.51)
thought she was sitting outside at first, smoking a cigarette. She was definitely sitting on some stairs or something.

Because then she got up and she went and got a chain and that's when she locked them in that bedroom and then proceeded to get the SUV and throw it and drive it. I mean, she did a lot.

Tanesha (42:31.201)
But she was talking, she was talking a lot of stuff. She was doing like that, waiting to inhale. She was doing that waiting to exhale Angela Bassett moment. And she was like, you want to bring her up in here and be in my closet? you telling her that's my stuff? Okay. Well then, I guess you can learn. I thought that was a little.

Kiara (42:43.944)
Yes, she was.

Kiara (42:54.249)
That was the wildest scene I have ever seen.

Tanesha (42:58.367)
Especially for her to come sit back inside and smoke a cigarette like, mm-hmm. Yeah, scream now. Y'all can't get out. Go ahead, scream. But I think it was also the principal, too, that Felicia was like, uh-huh, that's my daddy, that's your, you don't care? That's what, she was just like, Mm-hmm.

Kiara (43:14.045)
Yeah, she had no shame either. So that's the thing. Like I said, she made some poor choices. Now granted, I understand that you do what you can. like, you know, I understand that, you know, you in a dynamic, you trying to make the best of it. But this was not the way to do it. And she should have had some common sense because everybody in that family is crazy. But this didn't even stop that.

Tanesha (43:39.084)
Mm-mm.

Kiara (43:40.713)
This didn't even stop Felicia or Roy from their shenanigans, which they almost died. If Officer Alex did not come through and save them, which I was a little disappointed in his choices, I'm not gonna Because they was killing other people.

Tanesha (43:55.822)
I like he had, think Alex is always trying, I think Alex is a good guy trying to figure things out. I think, only reason I'm saying that is because I would hope he's not playing everybody, just to try to get out of it. I feel like everybody's trying to figure out how to get out of it because Jules is such a powerful person, but.

Kiara (44:03.217)
Maybe.

Tanesha (44:23.019)
him going to save them. Listen, Mallory's like, why you, why don't even go in there? Mallory was so mad, he waited to go get them. She was like, yeah, okay. And then for, and then this is the other thing that's so confusing because I'm going, well, Roy, do you really care too? Because then he followed Mallory to Alex's house.

Kiara (44:46.045)
He just, again, that's about ownership. That's not even about care. He owns her, or so he thinks. And again, I think she's, okay, admittedly, I think her feelings are hurt, but I think, again, it's because she tied her life to his. And even when she starts to tell her story about her being a foster kid, I was like, hold up. So she was doing a lot of stuff to survive as well.

Tanesha (44:49.734)
Mm. Mm.

Tanesha (45:06.305)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (45:12.263)
and this is what you do.

Kiara (45:16.829)
You get what you get, Roy. That's all I'm saying. But anyway, and he just played with her for two seasons of Crazy. I didn't do it. What? What you talking about? Like, stop playing with me.

Tanesha (45:21.697)
But then he kept messing with her. He brought her to the job.

Tanesha (45:29.773)
Hello? Hello? Hello? You froze. You gonna have say that again.

Kiara (45:39.369)
Stop doing that first of all because I could see you and it was coming back.

Tanesha (45:41.249)
you

Tanesha (45:46.069)
Was it? cause no, cause on my end you froze froze. Like it was like froze. Like you, I heard nothing. There was zero. And I was like,

Kiara (45:54.602)
Yeah, stop doing that. Give it a minute and then talk again. Because I was like, oh god, now I gotta delete that. What I was saying is that he gaslit her for two seasons. Even like, oh, what? I did what? No, I didn't do that. And if I did, so?

Tanesha (46:04.834)
Mm.

Kiara (46:12.649)
So it's like, he basically like...

Kiara (46:18.885)
treated her again as property, which is why, again, I don't think there's a love to be found here. I think it's about ownership. I think it's about, want it because it's mine, not because I actually want it.

Tanesha (46:21.581)
Mm.

Kiara (46:35.079)
Because I also don't, again, I don't think Roy has ever been chosen, maybe by Mallory initially until she realized who she had. And then that was that.

Tanesha (46:44.897)
Cause I would love to know their backstory to really see if they actually was really in love. Yeah, like to see if they really was in love, like how did they find each other or was this already an agreement and arrangement and that's why it's what it is. And then she started catching feelings and he's like, why you catching feelings? Cause you already knew what was going on. Yeah, I hope he explores that. Cause I'm like, that would be something like to just give me a glimpse of what they were before.

Kiara (46:47.643)
Me too. I hope we explore that in season three. Me too.

Kiara (47:01.692)
I wonder.

Tanesha (47:12.557)
so I can understand where they, and how they got where they are now.

Kiara (47:12.925)
That's why.

Kiara (47:18.065)
Yeah, I definitely think we're probably going to visit that and see.

Tanesha (47:20.145)
Was he always somebody who did all these drugs? Or did he start doing these drugs? Okay, go ahead.

Kiara (47:23.599)
No. So even when they were talking to the attorney, I was like, there had to be a point somewhere in there where his drug use was recreational instead of every single moment of the day. So there had to be a moment he went from one time to addict. So I wonder if there was like a catalyst that pushed him over that. I was like, was there ever a time that your father loved you?

Tanesha (47:43.809)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (47:47.883)
Mmm.

Mmm. I do want to know if there was a time that he actually cared about them or if this was all transactional and then because he really hates Olivia like with the passion with this you could see it he's just like I can't stand you and I feel like Olivia is like in the crosshairs like but how could you do feel that way but then at the same time it's like girl you know what you did like what you mean and then here you are sitting here trying to rob everybody to

Pay your debt.

Kiara (48:20.017)
right? Okay, let's back up a little. We don't have to take it to the side part of this. Olivia is something special, okay? Girl, she's a church lady by the day. And at night, she is the biggest gangster ever. Family gangster. Right? She's just, I'ma rob everybody. And then her son. And then I thought they had a moment where her and Charles were Charles.

Tanesha (48:38.189)
She's a thug-o-rella.

Kiara (48:49.073)
chopped up people who tried to rob him.

Tanesha (48:49.453)
Because Charles, you can tell Charles loves her. So when she did what she did, he was just like, he is the only one.

Kiara (48:53.545)
And he the only one.

Kiara (48:57.863)
He's only one who loves her, which is like...

Tanesha (48:59.571)
He was just, you could tell he was hurt. He was just like, did you just?

Tanesha (49:06.081)
Like I thought I could trust you. What?

Kiara (49:08.06)
I did not see her gambling problem coming. I did not see that coming. That kind of took me in a whole other direction because I thought maybe I didn't understand quite why she wanted all the money except again, I want it because I don't want you to have it, right? Like, so I was like, she, didn't seem like she wanted it for any other reason except it's all mine because you left me.

Tanesha (49:12.672)
I didn't.

Tanesha (49:29.143)
Yeah.

Tanesha (49:36.065)
Yes, that's what I was, that's what I was take. I thought that was what it was. You decide you wanna divorce me, well, I'm take you for everything you want.

Kiara (49:36.125)
despite the fact that.

Kiara (49:42.792)
Right. Exactly. And then you find out, you and Norman been together for a minute, y'all had a whole affair for some time and then he found out. In the craziest way, but he found out. I can imagine that upsetting him. And then I was like, does he hate his kids because he doesn't think they're his?

Tanesha (49:55.659)
Yeah!

Tanesha (50:05.505)
He don't, ooh. Well, I definitely, I definitely, like I just, like earlier, I questioned if Roy is his kid. Cause he really despised that man. When he peed on him.

Kiara (50:20.541)
Okay.

Yeah, let's go there. Kimmy is coming into her own, obviously. And Horace is still there. This is before he goes to Italy for the treatment. Shout out to Sylvie for being like, I need you alive. The only one. I kind of need you alive. So if you don't mind taking this particular study and doing your own research about whether it can help you. I was like, not Sylvie coming to the rescue. But anyway.

Tanesha (50:34.509)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (50:50.359)
But he took a liking to Sylvie though, because you can tell he got soft with Sylvie. He was softer with her. And I was like, look at you. Maybe.

Kiara (50:52.657)
Yes, he did. He did.

But then I was like, did he ever have daughters? Like if he was only with Olivia, is there some other reason? Like did they lose a child? Like what else could cause, like I want to go back into their backstory a little bit too, to figure out again, how we ended up here.

Tanesha (51:17.57)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (51:18.921)
Because I was like, he did take a softening to Sylvie, but he also did to Kimmy. And I don't think it's a romantic way. I think it's more of a familiar way. Like, I want to help you. Like, almost like a daughter in a way, because his brain is all messed up with the way he sees family. And even finding out that he knew that Mallory had been lying to him forever and had been working him.

Tanesha (51:37.889)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (51:46.472)
Listen.

Kiara (51:49.895)
That was crazy. That was crazy. She was like, I sat there, I was like, let me rewind this.

Tanesha (51:58.296)
But even too, he also knew that Vonnie's double-sided. He goes, I double-check Vonnie all the time. I said, Well then.

Kiara (51:58.33)
Did he say he knew?

Kiara (52:07.261)
As as he do some of his job. Not all of it, but some of it. That's crazy. But anyway, so I definitely think there's, he peed on him because he had the audacity to say what he had to say to Kimmy. Granted, she did push him out the window, but he deserved it, like I said. So the fact that he said, can't wait to pee on my father's, then you get what you get. They ain't supposed to hear that. You ain't supposed to say that like that. And he didn't know he was there, so.

Tanesha (52:25.333)
I mean, he deserved it.

Tanesha (52:36.427)
But that was just crazy. That was a really crazy scene. He was like, yeah, hold him down. I was like...

Kiara (52:36.585)
Well, he didn't care.

Kiara (52:41.511)
He said he was two weeks. He needed them do it. And then I thought, I don't want that job. At all. At all I don't want that job. but that's not even the craziest moment from the season for me. Like I know I said that was the craziest scene I've ever seen in my life, but having Sylvie try to get it on with Jules' son in the barn and then Ray come through and have that kid.

Tanesha (52:55.413)
No, go ahead. What's the craziest?

Kiara (53:11.099)
and practically push him off the building on the second or third floor or whatever. And then his body just goes thunk. You know what mean? I was like, we never knew you, my guy. I'm so sorry. And then they go through all these lengths of trying to cover it up, not wanting to tell Kimmy. So I was like, I also question a little bit the trust between Rain and Kimmy because

Tanesha (53:40.141)
Hmm.

Kiara (53:41.054)
While they seem to have each other's back, they also seem to be okay hiding things from each other. Which I was like, you can't trust nobody in this game. just... Except that she did set her up for success. So should, you know, she put that money in her name, even though her biggest flex is she wants to be owner of that club. She knows herself and I appreciate her saying, I know who I am and this is what I want to do. So fair enough, but...

Tanesha (53:46.689)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (54:08.969)
I mean, Jewel's son was the victim in all of this.

Tanesha (54:12.895)
He was and you know, he was so nice. It was got it was like one of those once you got pushed off You're like, no, and then it was like he's your son and I went

Kiara (54:23.025)
Yep. I tell you, Tyler Perry's good for these surprises, because I was like, you've got to be kidding me.

Tanesha (54:24.045)
I was like, he about to come for y'all.

Tanesha (54:29.963)
I say he about to come for y'all. I'm gonna say my scene was when when Jules light up that his baby mama's house.

Kiara (54:39.709)
Well, she does care about her own son. Okay. So.

Tanesha (54:40.097)
When he lit, she didn't, I feel like she did, but she didn't. It was more like, when you look at the father of your kid who didn't want the kid, who didn't care about the kid, and all of a sudden now you're like, but he, you're like, but you didn't even know he had seizures. So what are you saying? I went, you know what?

Kiara (54:58.161)
Right.

I said, now this makes sense though, because when he fell, he was still alive for a while, which I was like, that's crazy. But even when he was in the hospital, and they said something about like seizures or something, and I was like, interesting. But also, why he didn't have his medical records?

Tanesha (55:21.825)
And this is where it's one of those, no one knew he was Jewel's son per se. And it was like, you hit him. Right. But, but you had him working at Horace's establishment at his residence.

Kiara (55:28.617)
But he did, because remember they were like, that's, that's Jewel's son. Or maybe he's the one who told them, I don't know.

Kiara (55:41.895)
Which was also like, seriously?

Tanesha (55:45.119)
And on top of that, Joel's son was sweet.

Kiara (55:49.212)
And he went to college, remember he was on break or something? I was like, The innocent ain't for this life in this game. You ain't, you know.

Tanesha (55:55.372)
So this is not, and I felt like he, Jules felt like he was doing what he needed to do by keeping him separate to try to say I'm his dad because his mom is no good. But.

Kiara (56:14.537)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (56:16.201)
You also kept, you keep your daughter and your wife in a whole different bubble. That's the other thing too, be like, sometimes I'm like, how can you separate your craziness that you doing, but then you sit here at your daughter's birthday party and your wife and y'all are just, and I was just like.

Kiara (56:32.539)
And his wife is telling him what to do. He listening.

Yeah, I don't know. I also had that kind of question mark.

Tanesha (56:41.013)
And then, but then even too, when they were like, no, Kimmy didn't know, because remember when she threatened Jules, well your daughter and your, you're gonna, and it was just like, how did you not know he had a son? Which means he really kind of probably hid that.

Kiara (56:54.451)
Yeah. Yeah?

Tanesha (56:56.375)
So that's what even like, you know, that, that was crazy in itself. No, it's actually what, yeah.

Kiara (56:59.805)
But not from his actual wife. That was the other thing. Because he's like, I gotta tell my wife. And so I was like, now I kind of want to know Jules' wife a little bit. So I was like, is season three going to be about Jules? Like, we get to more into the Jules of it all, and we find out his wife is in on everything. Or she knows enough to not know enough? You know what mean? Like, I'm very curious.

Tanesha (57:22.519)
She knows enough that it makes her not call him crazy. Because also, she called him that one time and she's like, I need you come home. You need bring yourself. And he's like, I don't care, come home.

Kiara (57:32.617)
Right.

Tanesha (57:36.962)
And then the daughter like, but dad, I miss you. Like that was like a glimpse of seeing that part of him, see him be soft and be quiet and chill and all those different things. So I wouldn't doubt that she may run the shots or she knows enough to know that he's doing things, but he knows not to, cause that's the other thing too. We don't see him doing anything with any of these people.

Kiara (57:40.37)
Yeah.

Kiara (57:45.424)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (58:03.173)
No, that was the other thing too. So I was like, I don't quite like, he's the mastermind behind these things.

Tanesha (58:11.959)
Well, him and Norman. Norman is a, you could tell his brain.

Kiara (58:13.755)
And Norman. Norman is something else. The way he took out that judge and the wife, like...

Tanesha (58:22.963)
After going over there like, hi, yeah, mm-hmm. And you could tell the wife didn't know nothing was going on.

Kiara (58:25.724)
Eatin' dinner?

Kiara (58:31.337)
You had no idea.

Tanesha (58:33.345)
but that judge was scared out his mind. He was like, between your brother and you, I don't know who I should be more scared of. Which also tells me these Horace's men.

Kiara (58:41.5)
Either or.

Kiara (58:47.079)
The Bellarie Men.

Tanesha (58:47.213)
Something oh, yeah, sorry Bellarie

It's something with these brothers.

Tanesha (58:58.593)
that they have to, like, they always this way? Were they always this evil to each other? Or did he turn evil on you because you slept with his wife? Or did you sleep with his wife because he decided to do something else to you?

Kiara (59:11.901)
Well, he slept with his wife probably. Didn't he say he's always been jealous of him or something? Though I was like, is that true?

Tanesha (59:17.409)
Cause dad, they're dad, like.

Kiara (59:22.185)
I don't know. Inquiring minds, you know what I'm Like, I don't know. I feel like...

Tanesha (59:25.473)
Well, like I said, I mean, I felt like, just to go back to Jules real quick, like to see him get so angry that she was just like.

Okay, our son died. I'm sorry that he passed. And then, like, but you don't sit here and act like you really cared because you don't really know too much or nothing. And I was like, he's like, I'm angry. I'm like, yeah, you angry because you know why you angry? Because truthfully, you were trying to get to the bottom of it. And technically, yes, they had something to do with your son dying, but.

the fact that you had to realize, dang, I ain't that good of a dad, because I didn't know this at all. So now I'm just angry. And now I'm just going to blow up all y'all up in here.

Kiara (01:00:13.513)
I'm sorry.

Kiara (01:00:17.563)
Alright, so let's, I mean, we all went through a lot. I mean, like, we didn't get into Olivia's gambling that cost her her leg situation. Like, it's still there, but it was shattered. And now, you know, scary lady who looks amazing.

Tanesha (01:00:20.171)
Yes. Yes. We feel better.

Tanesha (01:00:33.557)
Listen, a lady, I was like, she's like, you know he doesn't like, was like, ooh, Olivia, you met your match.

Kiara (01:00:41.597)
The one time she groveled, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know I don't like that. Like, listen, listen. When she hit her leg, I was like, I can't, I can't. That was.

Tanesha (01:00:53.281)
What was that a sledgehammer? What did she hit her leg with?

Kiara (01:00:56.615)
I think it was a sledgehammer or something. It was some kind of weapon.

Tanesha (01:00:59.319)
Cause she broke it quick. It was like a thwop, I was like, dang.

Kiara (01:01:04.125)
Yep. We saw a lot of brutality this season. I will say that. We had trials cutting up bodies. We saw a lot of blood this season. Yeah. I mean, this was a pretty brutal one, which leads us towards this finale, Where everything was coming together. So despite Roy and Felicia's near death encounter.

They still manage to go to the office and get into shenanigans because Roy says Felicia is going to be his assistant.

Kiara (01:01:44.645)
But the team up I never saw coming, I never thought Mallory and Kimmy and Rain would ever be in the same room and not want to kill each other.

That shook me

Tanesha (01:02:01.857)
Shook it shook me because I was like what but I kind of felt like The it was going to maybe happen because now Varney which we didn't touch on is now helping one of the male stripper people And the girl and and this well it's all it's all together and the sister who I don't think is really the sister

Kiara (01:02:21.881)
yes, yes, we need to go back. Well, this is all coming together, yes.

Okay, so let's take a moment. Let's go back and talk about that for a second. in the club, Varney is mad at Charles because Charles is doing the most as usual. And Varney's like, I don't want to love you anymore. So Varney goes to the club with Mallory, who is the same time Mallory is trying to figure out what's going on with Felicia and get her information. So this is a further prior to the near death experience with Felicia and Rory. And then

Tanesha (01:02:32.854)
Okay

Kiara (01:02:59.057)
So what is the guy's name? Do we know his name?

Tanesha (01:03:04.235)
He just kept calling him Poppy.

Kiara (01:03:07.421)
I was gonna say, the dancer from the club is immediately pushing up on Varney and Varney's like, I don't like it, I don't want it, da da da. And I was like, okay, sure. But we see that takes a turn later because Varney likes people manipulating him. That must be his thing. Because Charles does the same thing and here goes this other dude doing it. And we forgot to tell you why the sister was important because, well, Reign got a lot of revenge.

Tanesha (01:03:35.115)
Rain saved her life. Yep.

Kiara (01:03:38.281)
Rain got a lot of revenge, you know what saying? The people who... She did, and they didn't care. They didn't care, they didn't feel no kind of way. you know.

Tanesha (01:03:41.771)
Well deserved though, because she almost died.

Tanesha (01:03:47.201)
They did it. They was like, it's a part of life.

Kiara (01:03:52.724)
So Alex drove her to the room where the girl, sister was about to get, this quote unquote sister was about to get the same procedure done. And then next we know Rain is in fisticuffs. And Alex is just sitting there like, okay. But I thought it was really interesting that he got real cold. Like I guess we gotta kill everybody now.

What is his job? Where did you come from? Because Mr. Executioner, was very good at that. But anyway.

Tanesha (01:04:22.893)
Because isn't Alex a cop? Alex is a cop!

Kiara (01:04:26.343)
Yeah, but he had some kind of military background too. So I was like, okay, he was a sniper. But anyway, so then we have the girl left over because Rain doesn't want her to die. And the girl who has no common sense, it does not know how to shut up. Not only, and Rain gives her money to leave town, but she doesn't leave town. She goes and tells her brother and hides up in a hotel. And that's how we end up on this crazy chase toward the end of the season.

Tanesha (01:04:28.993)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (01:04:55.741)
because they got to get to them for multiple reasons. Mallory wants to know what had happened in that room and why the girl is important.

Varney is helping the guy that he was with, the brother, who wants his sister to be free and safe, because he tells Varney what everybody else knows at this point, which is that Jules is on his own criminal operation.

Tanesha (01:05:21.751)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (01:05:23.209)
So that itself is kind of like, wow, wow.

Tanesha (01:05:26.475)
And everyone has the same story. Well, I got told I asked to bring something but didn't realize it was drugs and then now we go get arrested. Now we're in front of this judge and they're like, well, yeah, you get off, but you gotta go work at this club. Especially they make them work. Cause who's, wait, what have I said I have?

Kiara (01:05:29.597)
Yes.

Kiara (01:05:41.833)
That's right.

Tanesha (01:05:48.193)
Five months left? Was it Felicia? Somebody was saying I got like five more months or a year left or something.

Kiara (01:05:55.284)
Well yeah, because they put them in debt and then they make you work like indentured servants who never get free. Because I was like, he ain't gonna never let you off. Because even Kimmy and Rain talked about that earlier. It's like, we ain't gonna actually ever make that money to get out of here.

Tanesha (01:06:12.301)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (01:06:12.873)
It's like a payday loan, you know what saying? Don't do it. Don't do it. You ain't going nowhere. You gonna be stuck here hoping for the best. And then, you know, they gonna take your car because eventually you can't pay for it. anyway, that's what it felt like in that moment was, it really, it reminded me. I was like, oof, that is, so it wasn't the never ending tab in the first place. But you're right. They all finally have the same story, Varney and Mallory.

Tanesha (01:06:36.663)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (01:06:42.185)
have the conversation with Kimmy and Rain. And we didn't even mention poor Sylvie was extra traumatized because after the death of Jewel's son, Jewel wants to take it out on somebody and Sylvie did not listen to her sister who told her to stay in the house and she escaped to go to the hospital and then Jewel's got her alone and then we didn't see nothing for them for ages.

Tanesha (01:06:45.665)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (01:06:57.687)
Mm-mm.

Tanesha (01:07:06.081)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (01:07:07.803)
until, again, towards the finale, he just lets her go because he needs her alive. Because Jules now realizes he needs Harold, or Horace, sorry. He needs Horace.

Tanesha (01:07:17.238)
it.

He needs, he needs Horace. But also too, also now can't prove that you had anything to do with his son's death because now his son could have tragically fell and had a seizure or he had a seizure and he fell. Now you can't prove nothing.

Kiara (01:07:35.901)
Maybe. I mean, that was awfully convenient. I was like, Okay.

Tanesha (01:07:41.848)
That, mean, ultimately I feel like that's why he also let her go because now it's like, dang, he had a medical condition? Hold on, wait. But, but I do feel for Sylvie and I mean, I'm hoping next season they do let her go to college and not be a part of none of this.

Kiara (01:07:46.15)
you

Kiara (01:07:52.584)
Yes, yes, that's fair.

Kiara (01:08:00.261)
She better go and stop trying to stay home because at this point like that's the only way she gonna get a life is get away from I told you the innocent they die here. So you need to go you need to not be here, which I thought Kimmy had a point and trying to get her gone and despite her not wanting to

but she's hard headed, period. That girl don't listen. And then she was judging Kimmy for all Kimmy's choices, and I'm like, listen, where you live is this happy-go-lucky child zone, which is crazy considering what you've just been through, okay? Because Kimmy had to do what Kimmy had to do.

Tanesha (01:08:37.249)
But I feel like that's where it's coming from. I feel like that's where it's coming from because remember in the beginning in season one when Kimmy was constantly talking to Sylvie, Kimmy was lying and saying, I'm in nursing school, I'm doing da da da da to keep her at bay. And if she didn't get kidnapped, I don't think she would be talking as much junk to her sister.

Kiara (01:08:47.539)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (01:08:59.709)
Probably not.

Tanesha (01:09:02.487)
So I feel like she sees it from a different point of view.

Kiara (01:09:02.567)
But also, I was glad that they were setting her straight. She didn't do it for fun. This is what happened to her. She was a victim of her own circumstances because her mother set her up for this life by kicking her out the house.

Tanesha (01:09:09.537)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (01:09:18.103)
That is true.

Kiara (01:09:19.997)
And then to find out, and then for Kimmy to find out that she never actually saved her sister, which is what she was hoping, was even more devastating.

So poor Sylvie has been through, but glad to see that she was still alive in the finale. But that was part of the finale too, because we didn't know what was gonna happen to her. We had no clue what was going on. But at this point, everybody's on a race to find the girl who knows the truth. Because then they can get back at Kimmy. Because at this point in the story, Kimmy has now pretty much taken away people's shares. Roy has to go to rehab.

Tanesha (01:10:01.602)
Would you know what? Rightfully so. Because, you know, she was like, you have way too much drugs. I'm like, dang, how much did you have? mean, what you be doing? Like, what is going on?

Kiara (01:10:04.584)
He should have been.

Kiara (01:10:11.113)
just thought it was hilarious that he was like, can I drink cranberry juice? No sir, I'm not gonna help you. When Charles said, nothing you could do, I really fell out my chair laughing. Because I was like, I don't know why you're even.

Tanesha (01:10:23.359)
It was like we both do stuff, but you do way.

Kiara (01:10:26.525)
Charles is like, I don't do as many as you.

Tanesha (01:10:30.699)
Which is true. I mean.

Kiara (01:10:33.745)
He is an addict. But they didn't just take his shares away, he just had to complete rehab and then basically don't fall back into habits after that. So they're gonna put you in like treatment and then you get to keep your funds. You just have none in the meantime. But then, Kimmy discovers all this shell company situation.

And so she's on a look up for everybody business. She trying to cut everyone in a mama out because that's what Horace asked for. She was like, I need everybody gone. And she does live up to her word of finding information and sitting down and basically turning on every single person in that room except Mallory and tells them that, yeah, you no longer have your shares for the following reasons, including that shell company.

and a funeral parlour, and then the laundering of money.

Tanesha (01:11:29.857)
Yo, I've never, when Olivia said, Olivia was like, she found that? I was like, like how she know about that one? dang. I'm like, what? What you mean how she know?

Kiara (01:11:45.831)
But she completed her mission. She got everybody on the getup. Until that last scene.

Tanesha (01:11:53.655)
the unexpected.

Kiara (01:11:56.466)
Now you gotta tell me, did you see that coming? Cause I definitely was like...

Tanesha (01:11:59.06)
No, I did not see that coming. I did not see that they was about to turn state evidence. I did not see that Mallory, Kimmy, and Varney got up. I was like, so for the two people you felt you can't trust, now all of sudden everybody is in agreeance. Okay.

Kiara (01:12:13.481)
course.

Kiara (01:12:27.401)
That was funny. I was like, this has been, I didn't know how to feel. And then I was like, so all y'all are states witness. And then you're just kind of left with the question mark. Like, what does that mean? Because what made it really funny is because Norman is like, oh, this is an entire criminal organization.

Tanesha (01:12:28.202)
I said okay.

Tanesha (01:12:35.021)
Especially Roy.

Kiara (01:12:51.881)
Period. So if I go down, you go down, we all go down. And that's where he drops the bomb about turning states witness. And then next thing you know, they are raided by the feds. So, or the IRS, I'm not sure who was there exactly, but whoever it was, that company is no go. Which is actually awfully convenient to me considering that company was gonna go bankrupt anyway because of the hair product situation at causing cancer.

Tanesha (01:13:19.041)
That's cause of cancer.

Kiara (01:13:23.113)
So I was like,

Kiara (01:13:29.405)
But now I have to know more. Like, I am so devastated we have to wait for this part three situation. And this is last one.

Tanesha (01:13:34.569)
And that's gonna be the last season, which sucks. But you know what? But you know what? You better wrap it up in a bow and I better have 24 episodes, okay? Yeah. But apparently I think they're not. think they...

Kiara (01:13:43.754)
24 episodes. I can see that. It's short. If I'm not mistaken, they renewed it for a third season and it's short, which is very weird. And I'm gonna tell you why. Typically, when a show is doing well, they try to bring it on for like a third season and then like a fourth season and a fifth season. Or they do multi-year renewal. So I was very curious.

how this one got renewed, knowing how well it's doing in the ratings, knowing how well it's doing on social media. After all, we are talking about it. And just to end it with like six episodes, I was like, what you gonna do? I hope it's not a power situation where we basically had to relive the last six hours over and over. It was the same scene through everybody else's eyes. And I was like, this is the worst finale I've ever seen. Well, it ain't the worst one.

I there was always Game of Thrones to be fair. Ain't nothing beating that. All those years I invested in ours. Nonetheless, I don't know what I'm gonna do with my life. You've completely corrupted me and now I am, might be watching Divorce Sisters. I got that on my little DVR list.

Tanesha (01:15:01.547)
Listen, I ain't gonna lie, like the first episode was like, what is this? But then by episode two or three, said, hold on, wait a minute, I need to finish watching this. To the point where it's over, I said, wait, when you coming back, I need to know what happens.

Kiara (01:15:17.455)
That's crazy. mean, anyway. So after you've seen season one, season two, are you team Mallory or team Kimmie

Tanesha (01:15:32.813)
gonna say Team Kimmy because she did what she needed to do to make sure that she was gonna survive.

Tanesha (01:15:40.654)
I mean, Mallory's still up in the air. Like right now she's on my good side, but I don't know. I don't know if I can trust her. I don't know if I can trust her as far as I can throw, and I can throw her far, but I don't know if I can trust her that far. I mean, like she got me in this one. I'm a, I'm a B, I like, oh, I was like, oh, I didn't even know you know how to fight. Hold on, wait a minute, wait, oh, okay. And I was like, okay.

Kiara (01:15:48.935)
You can throw her fire. Okay. All right. She little.

Kiara (01:16:03.379)
Crazy word. Yeah, I don't... I can say team neither and I'm gonna tell you why. Ain't no... I told you there's no innocence on any side of this card and if you're innocent you're dead. So, nah. I don't know if I think... I definitely don't want Kimmy to get everything. She's...

Tanesha (01:16:10.195)
okay.

Kiara (01:16:26.569)
earned in this life, including her murdering that man. We didn't even talk about the guy in the backseat of the car. So this is the other thing. I will say this. Yes, he did. No, they found the dead body when Angel went back out there and opened the car. She didn't, but she did know he was in the car. Now, granted, I know she was stressed out about Sylvie, but you could have at least, like, somebody should get the man out of the car.

Tanesha (01:16:34.989)
Wait, did he actually die? Or I thought they found him. Oh, mm-hmm. I don't think... I don't think she did it on purpose. She was just... angry.

Tanesha (01:16:53.281)
Well, she did. That's why she made Angel go take him.

Kiara (01:16:56.283)
was 12 to 18 hours later. I was like, listen here. That's why I'm like, I felt really bad for that and the family even though they were organized crime and for our poor Horace. He was on like all these calls and he seems to recover. So as we go into like season three, the last season, Horace seems healthier than he's been.

Tanesha (01:17:23.339)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (01:17:24.393)
Angel is on everybody's list because he can't watch nobody to save his life. Then he went up in the club acting crazy, spending bank tens of thousands of dollars. So Horace cut him off, which I was like, see that you just can't help some people. You know what saying? Just can't. His baby mama was messing with him. He just ended up in the worst place ever. Stuck in the house. And then he's heartbroken because he sees

the dancer who knows basically a younger version of him and he's like you're replacing me with him which is and the truth is most people still don't know the relationship between Angel and Horace and what that is because I always wondered because Angel is very clear to say there was no shenanigans between them he just danced

Tanesha (01:18:15.155)
Yeah, I don't think they ever actually did anything. think what it is, I think Horace is one of those, I like the sexual attention of a man. But I think because how he hates that part of him, he does not do anything. So I do feel like the relationship between him and Angel,

Kiara (01:18:35.401)
to stay a minute.

Tanesha (01:18:43.211)
is a different type of relationship. But I also think Angel, him chasing him like, my God, I'm so sorry, is because he also realized I have abundance of money, things that I want. And now you're about to snatch all that away. I can't go back. I can't go back. Because that's the reason why they got in this position, because he was trying to get the money.

Kiara (01:18:59.549)
Mm-hmm.

Right. Right. But he's...

Kiara (01:19:10.481)
Exactly, and he still hasn't figured out like how to Work for it in a way that is not necessarily Doing what he's doing. He's always trying to manipulate people too. So like I said, he ain't innocent neither. Okay? He's always trying to manipulate his way. He does have a strong loyalty to Kimmy and to Rain particularly Kimmy rather than Rain, which is interesting too

I like, did you, I mean, did you push up on Kimmy first? Question mark, question mark, I don't know. But there's definitely a lot of pieces that are interesting about the story that we haven't quite gotten there. So where do you think it'll start off in season three? Do you think we're at state's evidence right after that, or do you think some time will pass?

Tanesha (01:19:47.232)
Yeah.

Tanesha (01:19:57.056)
No, I think they're gonna start right there at this, like I need to see who, why, and if they fought it, what's going on. And then they can fast forward it. They can just go like, all right, so now we're at the trial, we're at, you in jail, everybody in jail, well now what we doing? You know, speed this up.

Kiara (01:20:11.305)
you

Yeah, I don't... I feel like they might have to do a time jump because they only have like six episodes or something like that. So it's definitely not as many that we've had. So you got to tell that story quick to get to whatever shenanigans you're going to go to, right? So I'm like, you're going have to wrap that up somehow. I mean, I don't know if somebody's going to bust out of jail. Like Olivia still got that person looking for her. Is somebody going to fake their death? Is Horace going to be dead? Like, I don't know. I feel like there's so many more places we can go with this that...

Tanesha (01:20:27.821)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (01:20:43.817)
It's devastating to know there's only six or so left to find out what happened. But I agree with you. One thing that he has to do, Tyler Perry has to his foot in this one and it has to end properly. Or he can start a spin-off and we can figure that out.

Tanesha (01:20:56.001)
Mm-hmm.

Tanesha (01:21:03.105)
But who would the spinoff be about?

Kiara (01:21:07.369)
That's a good question. I mean, I feel like we spent a lot of time with most of these characters. And I'm trying to think of like, maybe Officer Alex could have a spinoff. Or maybe like, Mallory could have a spinoff. She moved somewhere else and we, you know, follow her journey. I don't know. I don't think anybody else. I was like, I can't think of anyone else who should get a spinoff. I'm like, Felicia don't need a spinoff.

Tanesha (01:21:26.039)
Mm-hmm.

Kiara (01:21:36.841)
She'd be lucky if she makes it to the second episode. That hot coffee incident.

Tanesha (01:21:37.004)
Mm-mm.

Tanesha (01:21:44.333)
I'm gonna lie, I can see Felicia at the jail. Hi daddy. With the burns on her back.

Kiara (01:21:54.506)
They don't have money to pay for like remember Charles they have no money because his mama robbed him and then Roy ain't gonna have no money because all his stuff was cut off. So was like, how do you fight these charges?

Does Norman, can Norman turn on someone? And then Jules was in that room too. So I was like.

Tanesha (01:22:16.717)
Well, you see, this is the thing. I don't know. He may turn on Jules. He may turn on Mallory. He may turn on lot of people because remember, he found out that Mallory is the reason why, you know, his wife is dead. And then Roy decided to go on a whole Norman. Yeah, like, you know, and Roy decided to go on a whole telling the truth serum.

Kiara (01:22:29.746)
Norman.

Kiara (01:22:38.481)
That was crazy. That was funny. That was also part of the finale. I was like, God, you over here just telling everybody business. And she's like, don't put me into this. It was really funny at that table. He's like, why is she innocent? She done did stuff too. Listen, we got immunity. We don't know what you talking about. I did nothing. Which actually makes sense because with immunity, they'd be able to like have a clean slate and start over, which.

is necessary because Kimmy did commit a capital offense, among others, and Rain was killing people, and Mallory apparently, I don't know what she did that we don't even know about because, like I said, I think Mallory could totally have a spinoff because I would really like to know what else she did. What's her family like? Does she not have any? Like, with that.

Tanesha (01:23:25.122)
Mm.

Tanesha (01:23:28.557)
Mm.

Kiara (01:23:33.534)
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Yeah.

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Kiara (01:26:55.335)
Woof woof, getting it back.